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Police have a level of solidarity that puts the average worker to shame (reddthat.com)
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If a police officer does something wrong. It does not matter what the evidence shows or what happens. All police everywhere stand firmly together and protect their brethren. We literally have police offers who have undeniably murdered people and yet other police still stand with their class and demand better treatment.

If workers had that level of solidarity things would be so much better. Instead we cheer when someone gets fired who "deserved" it.

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[–] 0 points 22 hours ago* (6 children)

The police are used to keep workers in line

Of the nearly ten years of patrol I did, I did 0 union-busting and maybe 2 Employee Theft cases? 3?

If 99.99999% of their time is spent elsewhere, is it really their purpose?

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

    Or you just didn't work somewhere with a lot of protests.

    What you're doing is using anecdotal evidence, as if it's statistical.

    What's more the past is more important to how things got this way than today. The government, all governments fear riots and uprisings. That's the nature of government globally.

    Most protests that get anywhere remotely near riotous have a police presence. You can look at various french riots for that, or the Watts riots, or the Rodney King riots, or what happened after the death of George Floyd, ect ect...

    Or look at how closely groups like the Pinkertons were with the state. The police are the state's enforcement arm... And I'm not about to have your Copaganda try to bring that into question.

    The notion that "police are good boys and never used violence" is fucking idiotic. You can take that lie and fucking puke it out somewhere else, and pretend it's an argument/evidence.

    "A cop lying about evidence? Well I never".

    Awww and you even included a made up percentage about yourself.

    ....and does the comment you're replying to even say it's a matter of "allocations of time" and how police time is spent day to day? NO! No it doesnt. So you're lying there too with your Copaganda bullshit.

    "The state would never overpay for a way to enforce violence or repress protest".

    ...what a dumb argument to present.

    Also, a lot of police union deals are done around election time. Hell, head lf corruption Donald Trump promised the police a bunch of stuff when running. Most political figures do.

    You get a Zero out of 10 for your trying to make this about how you spent your time personally.

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  • [–] 0 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

    Or you just didn’t work somewhere with a lot of protests.

    Tampa, so I'd say middle of the road in that sense - at least for the US. We have occasional protests but they're pretty lackluster. A more Republican area would have none and a more Democrat area would have more - and more busy/big/effective/etc.

    What you’re doing is using anecdotal evidence, as if it’s statistical.

    Yeah it's all I have to draw on, but all you need to disprove a blanket statement is a single contradictory anecdote.

    What’s more the past is more important to how things got this way than today.

    Yes and No. You didn't say "Police (and military) used to be used to keep workers in line," nor did you qualify what you meant by "keep workers in line." I'm plenty familiar with Blair Mountain and similar historic incidents. Frankly your entire reply here could've been better served at the top, if your desire is to be rational about the issue; with the asterisks you present, I have nothing to say because a lot of what you have moved the goalposts to is completely true.

    The government, all governments fear riots and uprisings. That the nature of government globally. Most protests that get anywhere remotely riotous have a police presence.

    Sure, but that's in the realm of "[government] exists to keep workers in line" which is at least a lot closer to the heart of the issue, even if I don't categorically agree with it; it's definitely an increasingly central function of our increasingly auth-right state.

    The notion that “police are good boys and never used violence” is fucking idiotic.

    Then thank fuck I never said that, but I appreciate your straw-man.

    The rest of your comment is kinda you tooting your own horn and getting giddy about said straw-man and other nonsense, so let me know when you're ready to be an adult again and I'll respond accordingly.

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  • [–] 0 points 18 hours ago* (1 child)

    No one requested a "debate me bro" right winger here, or an egomaniac who wants to "not all men" the general topic, which goes beyond you.

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago

    Chill.

    People disagree on the internet. It's not your internet and it's not my internet. You can make up whatever names you want for me, but it makes no difference. If you talk to me, I'll often respond.

    You say you want me to shut up and leave, but here you are continuing to talk to me. You say nobody requested me here, but I didn't request you either.

    If you don't want to debate, don't debate. It's that simple. You just want to check out and pivot to ad hominem now because your arguments generally fell flat on their faces.

    Whether you come to the table for a discussion like a civilized adult or throw your mashed potatoes all over the floor in a tantrum, both are interesting as well as entertaining and I'll keep replying to your responses.

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