Here's what makes this whole thing absurd

The ban in question was a 3-day ban from r/youll_be_banned which is a subreddit where getting banned is literally part of its punchline. You make a post, you get banned if the mods are in a bad mood, and that's just the joke

Why on earth would I try to circumvent such a short ban, from that subreddit of all subreddits?

Still, it doesn't change that I've been accused by the automated system, even for something that I did not do

Right after I got that message about the sitewide ban, I panicked and sent a half-baked appeal explaining that I had zero intent. Of course that appeal got rejected because I didn't explain the context above. You could tell from the wording itself that I was still experiencing the shock of it all

And, well there is a page allowing me to send my second appeal. I'm just scared of it getting rejected again somehow

I think in the meantime, I'm just gonna stop shouting into the void and reach out here to you guys, just to talk it over. It's been 11 days since the ban, and I've been a little depressed about it

Does anyone want to share their experiences?

Edit: Submitted my second appeal which says:

My 3-day ban was from r/youll_be_banned, where bans are part of the joke. I didn’t intentionally evade it. Please review the specific activity behind my permanent suspension; my first appeal lacked context.

Wish me luck, even if my luck is low. If they still don't hear it, oh well I guess

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[–] 12 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

Of course that appeal got rejected because I didn’t explain the context above.

The repeal was rejected because they're never not rejected.

I posted info on effective ban evasion https://lemmy.world/post/52856407 , so far so good. IP address is by far the highest hurdle to clear these days, because of the crackdown on spammers. The universal weak spot with IPs is cell phones. It's too complicated to lock phone numbers to IPs since cell phones constantly move around, but I'm sure they would love to do this and might some day find a way to make it happen. But until that happens, it's the only back door, outside of paying good money for clean domestic IPs in your own timezone.

Reddit is fighting ban evaders with the same fire they used to go after bot networks, and probably losing a lot of valid, well meaning users in the process.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

    they recently tried to force logins because too many people were lurking afraid of getting banned, plus OPENAI stopped using the site too. new device, new browser is the easiest way to go back on reddit.

    they are getting good at blocking the spammers(the one drives traffic to thier own online businesses, or sometimes of accounts). i dont think it actually stops them though, im on another forum where they talk about this very thing, they can produce enough accounts ,devices, thier own browser setup to evade it constantly, or eventually. i dont think they go after propaganda bots though.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    I tried anti finger printing, which is like the same as using the device, and that works fine. I think what was the setting me back was not using a clean IP, and not using a mainstream email provider.

    I found out that if you use the cell phone IP with anti-fingerprinting like the brave browser, and he's a fresh email account through Gmail or Hotmail, youre pretty much in the clear from the get-go.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    i waited a whole year and was gauging reddits bans, they leveled off like last year, because they realize they were banning too much people, which would generated content for ai scraping. i dont use mobile for reddit anymore, except for lurking. i use librewolf as the desktop browser, since its a new browser i never used with reddit.

    its harder if you are spammer for your "business/income" they catch on faster that way. even these people started to produce "organic human behaviour, which serves reddits purpose, to not illicit the filtering. i stay away from all the large subs though, as long you are not a serial evader, you have to wait quite awhile before making a new account.

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  • [–] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Maybe they will start profiling cell service IPs, but so far I've been in the clear with them. I think spam / proxy IP database lookups is weighing heavily in reddit's profiling. Using Claude I cam up with a reasonably seamless way to have Firefox and Brave on my home PC use my phone's data connection instead of my cable IP, which is very very static and long blacklisted.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago*

    reddit is definitely doing that, for people who are spamming thier own businesses. i created an account after a year of getting shadowbanned, from brave, i think what set it off during early last year, when i was using brave, reddint dint notice, but when i switched to a different browser they immediately shadowbanned the now deleted account. as long as you have different IP/device, and browser you are in the clear. the spammers i was talking about have multiple devices(phones) so they can do the spamming. i only use the phone to lurk now and on desktop i avoid any of the problematic subs.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    So they really just think I'm as bad as a bot network, Jesus Christ no wonder they went full Shoretrooper from Andor on me

    With all that you've pointed out, I just really don't want to go there... at least not yet

    My goal is to at least try everything that I can first, to appeal it every once in a while if I can. I can't prove their suspicions by being exactly what I'm trying to make my case about not being

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    I'm only on reddit for three or four subreddits. I was banned from two of them for moderate political views. Not surprisingly, my new account has not been banned by the subreddits I like, but other subreddits have banned my account using something I just learned existed called "/u/bot-bouncer" which is apparently a non-reddit service that somehow decides if a new account is a bot or not based on account age and post history analysis alone. Absolutely crazy. This of course increases the ban evasion threat considerably.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    my new account after i was banned last year, only vist niche subs for burning questioned i needed answers, or niches i was very interested in. i avoid participating in news/musics/politics type subs. i had to remove all my comments using powersuite delete on a sub that was getting too much traction.

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