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[–] 229 points 3 years ago (48 children)

They are still going on about the vaccine??

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  • [–] [S] 124 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)

    The CDC just recommended a new round of boosters for everyone the other day. And as expected, conservative media is melting down about it again. But even beyond that, they’ve been getting back into “COVID temper tantrum” mode for about a week or so now that we're moving into the fall.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I came for the discussion, I stayed for the username.

    Trash the planet.

    [skates away]

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  • [–] 82 points 3 years ago (33 children)

    I miss the days when antivaxxers were just a source of amusement, like flat earthers. Now they seem to be everywhere and it's just sad.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It was never amusing. Earlier it was "only" kids dying of the measles because their dumbass parents were antivaxxers. With COVID-19, it started affecting adults so that's why they get more attention. The public seems to be better able to tolerate children dying of preventable shit than adults.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    Do want another level of insanity? Here in Germany, we got the news today that WEATHER TV persons get harrased by people that think there is no climate change and its just propaganda.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    There was a meteorologist in the US, in Nebraska iirc, that resigned a couple of months ago after receiving death threats for daring to mention climate change during his weather report. They're fucking unhinged.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    In France, on one of the main channels (the public TV, something like 5 or 6 channels, one of which is 24h news), the weather is now called "climate news" and addresses frontally climate stuff, with a link where you can send questions that they answer on air (whether what they answer are real questions or not is left as an exercise to the reader).

    Of course that ruffled some feathers with the lunatic fringe, but they stuck with it, which is nice.

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  • [+] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    They'd be quicker to believe that tbh. Anything that lets them shirk all accountability for their own actions and justify their bigotry. Your facts << their feelings because skydaddy told them they're special and he's got it all under control.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (7 children)

    Polarized. Two nearly identical people can easily be convinced to hate each other over all sorts of silly nonsense because of what media they choose to consume.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (6 children)

    Nah, if you're so unhinged that you're making death threats simply because someone referenced objective and observable scientific facts that your warped fairy tale reality doesn't let you accept, there's no "once you cut through all your regressive, batshit beliefs, we're really the same". There's no reasoning with them because the delusion (e.g. "owning the libs") is their whole identity.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    Thank you for the example of someone dehumanizing other people.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    How's the view from your high horse?

    I've learned that trying to take the high road with people that revel in bigotry and corruption is a fruitless endeavor. I'm done being naive and giving them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps that's because I live in the real world and actually deal with these people, rather than the pontificating about the intellectual concept of these people.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    You are interesting. Go ahead and doubledown on hatred. Thanks. Have a great day!

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Speaking of interesting, you should read up on the paradox of tolerance. It's very enlightening stuff! Thanks for sharing your perspective!

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  • [+] -55 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Just because someone's against THIS "vaccine" doesn't mean they are an 'antivaxxer'. Lumping everyone together for one view is dangerous.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Yes it does.

    There is literally nothing of substance behind the claims that "this one is different" it's the exact same argument from the exact same unreliable sources. Literally the ONLY difference is that this vaccine was made controversal by American politics.

    If you are against the covid vaccine then you are an anti-vaxxer, whether you realize it or not.

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  • [+] -11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    That's not strictly true.

    This was the first FDA-approved mRNA vaccine, so it is "different".

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    Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is the first mRNA product to achieve full FDA approval in the U.S.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Technically correct, but that doesn't mean it's any less safe by all accounts.

    https://www.vumc.org/viiii/infographics/how-does-mrna-vaccine-compare-traditional-vaccine

    https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/what_makes_an_rna_vaccine_different_from_a_conventional_vaccine

    https://healthcare.utah.edu/coronavirus/vaccine/mrna-vaccine

    I imagine you're not actually against the Vaccine, just pointing out the factual truth that it is indeed different then prior vaccines, however that doesn't on it's own make it unsafe.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I never said (or even implied) it was less safe, only that saying it's no different than previous vaccines is not true.

    You're putting words in my mouth

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I agreed with you?

    Even said, "I imagine you're not against the vaccine" because you were getting down voted because people are weird about facts that sound like something a nut would say even if factually true.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    You're technically correct so I don't understand the downvotes, you most obviously didn't imply anything else. Love the mrna technology, went out of my way to get vaccinated during pregnancy (because Germany was a bit slow with that), literally worked on Covid, Anti-Covid meds and mRNA in the lab, and you'll have my upvote. You're the best kind of correct after all. Don't get discouraged.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago*

    Most people here do not have fully functioning brains and cannot distinguish someone being correct from someone blathering nonsense.

    Upvotes and downvotes are purely based on whether or not your vibes match their expectations.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    The thing is, there are several vaccines for covid available worldwide.

    I've never heard an anti-"THIS"-vaccine person ever say "I just don't want to use mRNA so I want the J&J vaccine" or anything of that nature.

    All I ever heard was lies, pretending covid wasn't severe or that ivermectin is a protective or that there's 5G magnetism in the vaccine.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    checks Russel Brands YouTube

    Yeah....yeah they are

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Russel Brand turning into a conservative hack was not on my apocalypse bingo card.

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