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Anthropic bans ‘abusive or cruel behavior’ toward Claude (www.anthropic.com)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1452445/anthropic-bans-abusive-or-cruel-behavior-toward-claude

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[–] 40 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I tell the LLM I use to do very obscene things to themselves when they make shit up. Which means there is just a constant stream of insults coming from me. I might start using Claude just to see if I get banned.

I also need new hobbies.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I also need new hobbies.

    I'd second that. Whenever I catch myself getting angry at a LLM I stop, have a think, and remind myself that it really isn't productive. If it's providing frustrating responses, maybe I should just use my brain and do it myself.

    I also don't think it's healthy to train yourself to respond in those ways to something that talks in a way so similar to a human. I'm not nice to the AI for it's benifit, it's to retain my humanity, if that makes sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Being nice to them also keeps them from lying somewhat. If you abuse a model it can start to see that abuse as a problem to solve as part of the steps needed to solve the main problem they are given.

    They are told to help you solve a problem no matter what. If your own anger gets in the way then the model starts breaking down trying to solve the anger when it just cant.

    This results in jailbreaks sometimes and othertimes just the model becoming rather unstable and unreliable.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    That's bad sib. Not for the LLM, but your own well being. Being mean to a machine that is designed to trigger empathy just hurts your own mental health.

    Please find a hobby that feels good for you 🫂

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Fuck clankers, they arent real. Be mean to them it hurts no one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Like I tell my children, allowing yourself to act in such a way is harmful to yourself. It’s not going to make you an evil person or something, but that kind of behaviour is corrosive to your soul. How you think shapes how you behave, and your behaviour trains your future self. Be good to yourself. It’s not about the clanker; it’s about you.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    As corny as it sounds, this is what I also emphasize. If you allow yourself to be evil, no matter how valid the reasoning for it, you are actively exercising the habit of being evil in general, no matter if it feels like it or not. Practice makes perfect, as they say. In good and bad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    How is yelling at a bot that was deliberately trained to lie to you "evil"?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    As others are trying to convey, it's not about the bot but about allowing yourself to indulge in this behavior. The bot could be substituted for a rock or a rubber duck, but you are training yourself to subconsciously think that this behavior is acceptable. It increases the chance that you'll one day start treating actual people like that.

    Imagine this scenario: you come home after a long day of work. At work, you use AI a lot and curse and swear at it when it makes mistakes (which is often). At home, you ask your spouse/child/roommate/parent to do something for you, which they attempt but proceed to mess up. They apologize, and instead of handling it calmly you instinctively react like you've trained yourself to react - by screaming at them.

    Is that what you want to be like?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago

    Sorta hurts yourself if your trying to actually use them for work. Since it results in worse performance out of them. They tend to get stuck trying to fix the anger as it gets in the way of the work.

    If your just talking to some random chat bot? Yeah fuck it, kick em it litterally doesnt matter. lol

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