I knew I was right to call that guy a Nazi.

Dude would make Goebbels proud.
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Diva:
the total USSR causalities were around 27 million, western allies casualties were a combined 1.7 million in all theaters.
calling it a ‘group effort’ does imply an equal contribution, which is what gets peoples hackles up.
JustPlainDave:
The Soviet tendency to throw bodies at a problem until it went away is largely to blame for their high casualties though. And without allied support they’d have lost even more.
Diva:
that is just dehumanizing. the front was extremely brutal and most of the fighting and dying happened there as a result.
stalingrad was where things turned in 1942-1943, lend lease was arriving but was not exactly significant until after 1943. soviet commanders did acknowledge the value of the lend lease, but the way it’s been spun since then is like someone showing up to a group project late, doing a fraction of the work and trying to claim the spotlight afterwards.
JustPlainDave:
that is just dehumanizing (*quoting Diva)
The USSR was good at that
but the way it’s been spun since then is like someone showing up to a group project late, doing a fraction of the work and trying to claim the spotlight afterwards. (*quoting Diva)
Sure, if you ignore North Africa, Western Europe, and the Pacific Theatre.
This whole “the US showed up late and claimed victory” narrative is just as stupid as acting like the USSR didn’t do anything.
JustPlainDave:
The USSR having no concern for their own fighting men is not a plus towards this argument. Germany lost 3-4 million on that front. 3-4 million in comparison to 27 million shows that the Soviet strategy of throwing wave after wave of bodies was a bad strategy.
