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[–] 2 points 2 days ago* (10 children)

Pro tip: if you still want to use YouTube's recommendations in some way, create lists for the videos to watch in your notes app of choice. Then under videos that you liked, look through the recommendations for related videos and copy promising ones into a list by topic (an extension like ‘Copy URL To Clipboard’ can help with this, especially if using Markdown or Org-mode). I've been using this system for ages with YouTube's built-in playlists, and it worked great — I have probably a whole year's worth of videos to watch full-time.

On the phone, you can use NewPipe or Invidious. Particularly, if using Firefox on Android, you can trick it into installing a desktop extension like ‘Redirector’ that would open Invidious instead of YouTube. And for copying page links, I use the Automate app by sharing the tab to it.

Also, if you use Android (a Pixel phone in particular), it might be possible that Google would confirm your account by sending a verification notification to the phone. This technically doesn't give them info that you haven't already explicitly provided, though of course they know the phone number anyway from said phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (9 children)

    Luckily I have collected a decent amount of channels, I don't really run out of things to watch anymore, even if I'm only relying on the new uploads per channel feed. So I don't really "need" the recommendations. Though Free Tube does have them on the side when watching a video, so I have that as a backup. But so far, for the last year or so, I have had no need for them. I think. Probably.

    On mobile, I use Morphe and that thing is still signed in to the google account, through Android, I assume. But I've grown to hate my phone so I tend to not use that. I use it mostly to be petty, for example, if I watch a video with Free Tube, that I think deserves a like, more visibility and whatnot, I play the video also on Morphe, hit like and make a comment. I turn off the screen and let the video play. I know its not much but I keep being told that liking and commenting does boost videos on the algo, so I keep doing it for the videos I deem deserving.

    Thanks for the tips anyway, I hope someone else sees it and gets use out of it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Well, you can use my approach if you ever wish to stray outside the defined set of channels. Personally I prefer to collect videos all over and keep only a few subscriptions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (7 children)

    Yup I have put your suggestions to a .txt file in case I ever want to, or more likely have to, change my ways. Its good to have options.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    Btw, I must also note that I've gotten some cool music recommendations from Youtube, despite having quite snobby and unusual tastes — mostly by the virtue of jealously curating my algo for years by not opening any random stuff under my account (usually using an incognito tab for that). I think it might also be possible to do that by just using the recs under videos.

    Fun fact: Youtube tracks recommendations for a non-logged-in session. With the help of Firefox's ‘Multi-Account Containers’ that isolate a site in some tabs from normal cookies, I once ran a logged-out Youtube session for a month or two just to listen to some eurodance/europop tunes from my youth without polluting the main account.

    So you could in fact have proper personalized recs without logging in, except for videos that are marked as adult or if using a VPN or Tor.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (5 children)

    Thanks, good info. I'll look into the container thing. I just refuse the browser cookies as a default. So I don't get any recommendations on the browser.

    I'm same as you with music, I have very specific tastes, to the point that my best friends don't bother recommending anything to me anymore lol. Or if they do, they say "I know you probably wont like this but I've been listening to __________ recently" haha. I'll see if I can find motivation to let youtube recommend something for me. I did use YouTube Music with Morphe for about half a year and.... it wasn't very good. I even did the whole "don't recommend this" dance, but it still kept recommending the artist, just different albums/songs. But maybe it was a case of not using it enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    The last couple selected recommendations I got from Youtube were Tribal Baroque's ‘Gypsy Dance’ and Hermeto Pascoal's ‘Música da Lagoa (Sinfonia do Alto Ribeira)’ — both only five days ago. Just those two justify the years I've spent nurturing my algo.

    For better or worse, the recs are the killer feature of Youtube. One has to look through some junk to find the gems, but they are there.

    I never bothered with the 'don’t recommend' thing, except maybe when Youtube was stuck for weeks in a bout of Louis Rossmann vids after I watched one or two of them. Instead, I just choose what I actually watch or add to playlists.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    I wonder if theres a service that allows me to send my last.fm or listenbrainz profile to be scanned and tell it to recommend stuff from a certain time period. The last.fm and listenbrainz recommend system is awful. They operate on the level of "oh you listened to this one Finnish artist, here's ten Finnish artists but from genres that you have literally never played at all, enjoy!"

    Anyway, I'm glad you found good stuff :) I'll see if I can trick youtube to give me recommends, maybe if I make a playlist, play it through a few times, it'll give me something lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    I mean, there's Libre-fm, but it doesn't seem too active in development. Idk how good its recommendations are.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Yeah I have that one as well but its pretty spartan. To be honest, I haven't even logged in like a year. I've been using last.fm since 2005, listenbrainz since a few months ago but it had a thing that imported all my scrobbles from last.fm. Listenbrainz (and musicbrainz) is a cool project and I'm looking forward to what they come up with in the future. Last.fm is great as well, especially since they got back to independent recently. Both are cool in their own ways, so I'm gonna stick to them, just wished their recommend system was better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Frankly, for myself I'm mostly using Bandcamp's and YouTube's recommendations, and also often posts from a local Facebook-like social network, by genre — which are mostly reposts from Bandcamp, but nicely curated.

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