thinking. I mean people here may be different but even people I know who have been technically competent are more and more not having the patience to do things in a safe way. I mean I can't complain completely. I use easy linux distros and don't have the patience to use one with more configuration needed. on the other hand if the easier methods did not exist I would so its more an unnecessary thing. which is I think the thing I am seeing with other folks. they just rather roll over and do the easy phone thing as the provider dictates.