▲ 255 ▼ Court Agrees with EFF: Utah’s VPN Law Demands a Technical Impossibility (www.eff.org) submitted 8 hours ago* by inari@piefed.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 23 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 28 points 8 hours ago (8 children) Fuck age verification permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (7 children) *on the Internet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 18 points 7 hours ago More like *that empowers the surveillance state. Honestly, I have nothing against age restricted spaces (within reason). When a bouncer checks your ID at a bar, they historically haven't been logging that interaction. Its not used to track your movement, reported to your health insurance company, etc... If you assigned the death penalty to CEOs who store or sell verification information I could maybe be talked into providing my ID to an online company. permalink fedilink source parent [+] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -6 points 7 hours ago (5 children) Everywhere, stuff should have a knowledge or “maturity” test. People age and mature differently, they shouldn’t be limited due to arbitrary distinctions like an age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago Do… I need to point out why this is a dumb statement? “She may be 10 but she passed the maturity test!” “Yes officer, I’m nine, but I passed the maturity test so it’s fine that I’m smoking and drinking.” Age isn’t a great indicator in all respects, but “maturity” is arbitrary and subjective, and makes no damn sense in so, so many instances. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 12 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Problem with that is different people have different ideas as to what's "mature enough," or even "mature" at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 5 points 6 hours ago and since the point is the tracking and not the age at all there's no reason to even try a maturity test. it's about your identity, nothing more and nothing less, every single time it's brought up. If they cared even a shred about kids we'd have universal healthcare so as usual it's just flat out lies to our face. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago "You're very mature for your age" some pedo arguing that age is just a number permalink fedilink source parent [–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago Tell that to a girl's father. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (7 children) *on the Internet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 18 points 7 hours ago More like *that empowers the surveillance state. Honestly, I have nothing against age restricted spaces (within reason). When a bouncer checks your ID at a bar, they historically haven't been logging that interaction. Its not used to track your movement, reported to your health insurance company, etc... If you assigned the death penalty to CEOs who store or sell verification information I could maybe be talked into providing my ID to an online company. permalink fedilink source parent [+] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -6 points 7 hours ago (5 children) Everywhere, stuff should have a knowledge or “maturity” test. People age and mature differently, they shouldn’t be limited due to arbitrary distinctions like an age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago Do… I need to point out why this is a dumb statement? “She may be 10 but she passed the maturity test!” “Yes officer, I’m nine, but I passed the maturity test so it’s fine that I’m smoking and drinking.” Age isn’t a great indicator in all respects, but “maturity” is arbitrary and subjective, and makes no damn sense in so, so many instances. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 12 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Problem with that is different people have different ideas as to what's "mature enough," or even "mature" at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 5 points 6 hours ago and since the point is the tracking and not the age at all there's no reason to even try a maturity test. it's about your identity, nothing more and nothing less, every single time it's brought up. If they cared even a shred about kids we'd have universal healthcare so as usual it's just flat out lies to our face. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago "You're very mature for your age" some pedo arguing that age is just a number permalink fedilink source parent [–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago Tell that to a girl's father. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 18 points 7 hours ago More like *that empowers the surveillance state. Honestly, I have nothing against age restricted spaces (within reason). When a bouncer checks your ID at a bar, they historically haven't been logging that interaction. Its not used to track your movement, reported to your health insurance company, etc... If you assigned the death penalty to CEOs who store or sell verification information I could maybe be talked into providing my ID to an online company. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works -6 points 7 hours ago (5 children) Everywhere, stuff should have a knowledge or “maturity” test. People age and mature differently, they shouldn’t be limited due to arbitrary distinctions like an age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago Do… I need to point out why this is a dumb statement? “She may be 10 but she passed the maturity test!” “Yes officer, I’m nine, but I passed the maturity test so it’s fine that I’m smoking and drinking.” Age isn’t a great indicator in all respects, but “maturity” is arbitrary and subjective, and makes no damn sense in so, so many instances. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 12 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Problem with that is different people have different ideas as to what's "mature enough," or even "mature" at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 5 points 6 hours ago and since the point is the tracking and not the age at all there's no reason to even try a maturity test. it's about your identity, nothing more and nothing less, every single time it's brought up. If they cared even a shred about kids we'd have universal healthcare so as usual it's just flat out lies to our face. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago "You're very mature for your age" some pedo arguing that age is just a number permalink fedilink source parent [–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago Tell that to a girl's father. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago Do… I need to point out why this is a dumb statement? “She may be 10 but she passed the maturity test!” “Yes officer, I’m nine, but I passed the maturity test so it’s fine that I’m smoking and drinking.” Age isn’t a great indicator in all respects, but “maturity” is arbitrary and subjective, and makes no damn sense in so, so many instances. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 12 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Problem with that is different people have different ideas as to what's "mature enough," or even "mature" at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 5 points 6 hours ago and since the point is the tracking and not the age at all there's no reason to even try a maturity test. it's about your identity, nothing more and nothing less, every single time it's brought up. If they cared even a shred about kids we'd have universal healthcare so as usual it's just flat out lies to our face. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 5 points 6 hours ago and since the point is the tracking and not the age at all there's no reason to even try a maturity test. it's about your identity, nothing more and nothing less, every single time it's brought up. If they cared even a shred about kids we'd have universal healthcare so as usual it's just flat out lies to our face. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago "You're very mature for your age" some pedo arguing that age is just a number permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago Tell that to a girl's father. permalink fedilink source parent