▲ 629 ▼ Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by blue_berry@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (12 children) How do you find out if they defederated from instances? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 45 points 3 years ago (7 children) https://defed.xyz Built by yours truly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] gsa32@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you have any plans to add support for showing when a Lemmy or Kbin instance has defederated from Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, Soapbox, Misskey, etc. instances? That seems to be the only flaw when tracking Lemmy deferations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 3 years ago Adding support for Kbin is definitely a priority. When I built that tool Kbin didn't have public defederation lists (yet?) though a pull request to implement that was in the works. Idk what's the status on that is, but as soon as it's merged I'll also add Kbin. For any other software it's a little trickier. Unless there some way to check for this through ActivityPub of which I'm not aware, I have to go through software specific steps to scan those instances. This means that for Lemmy I go through an API that only exists on Lemmy, when I'll add Kbin I'll have to write some new code that will only write for Kbin and so on. This isn't really sustainable for EVERY fedi platform out there, I won't do that. Moreover, as you saw there was a progress bar. That's your computer querying each one of those 300 instances looking for their defed lists. The more software I add, the more instances you as a user have to query, the longer it takes to run a search. All in all I don't think I'll add support for any other software aside from Kbin and possibly Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago Nice! I'm bookmarking this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jose1324@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Nice, this is useful permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Incredibly useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bebo@sffa.community 2 points 3 years ago Great. This is so useful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago will add to home screen permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago https://lemmy.world/instances Replace it with your instance domain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) If you find out please let me know too. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 3 years ago I built a tool for that https://defed.xyz permalink fedilink source parent [–] CassowaryTom@lemmy.one 4 points 3 years ago I found a link to a list of who is defederated from whom on a "fediverse for beginners" post. I will see if I can find it again if you need, but it looks like some other commenters already got you covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 45 points 3 years ago (7 children) https://defed.xyz Built by yours truly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] gsa32@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you have any plans to add support for showing when a Lemmy or Kbin instance has defederated from Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, Soapbox, Misskey, etc. instances? That seems to be the only flaw when tracking Lemmy deferations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 3 years ago Adding support for Kbin is definitely a priority. When I built that tool Kbin didn't have public defederation lists (yet?) though a pull request to implement that was in the works. Idk what's the status on that is, but as soon as it's merged I'll also add Kbin. For any other software it's a little trickier. Unless there some way to check for this through ActivityPub of which I'm not aware, I have to go through software specific steps to scan those instances. This means that for Lemmy I go through an API that only exists on Lemmy, when I'll add Kbin I'll have to write some new code that will only write for Kbin and so on. This isn't really sustainable for EVERY fedi platform out there, I won't do that. Moreover, as you saw there was a progress bar. That's your computer querying each one of those 300 instances looking for their defed lists. The more software I add, the more instances you as a user have to query, the longer it takes to run a search. All in all I don't think I'll add support for any other software aside from Kbin and possibly Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago Nice! I'm bookmarking this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jose1324@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Nice, this is useful permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Incredibly useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bebo@sffa.community 2 points 3 years ago Great. This is so useful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago will add to home screen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gsa32@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you have any plans to add support for showing when a Lemmy or Kbin instance has defederated from Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, Soapbox, Misskey, etc. instances? That seems to be the only flaw when tracking Lemmy deferations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 3 years ago Adding support for Kbin is definitely a priority. When I built that tool Kbin didn't have public defederation lists (yet?) though a pull request to implement that was in the works. Idk what's the status on that is, but as soon as it's merged I'll also add Kbin. For any other software it's a little trickier. Unless there some way to check for this through ActivityPub of which I'm not aware, I have to go through software specific steps to scan those instances. This means that for Lemmy I go through an API that only exists on Lemmy, when I'll add Kbin I'll have to write some new code that will only write for Kbin and so on. This isn't really sustainable for EVERY fedi platform out there, I won't do that. Moreover, as you saw there was a progress bar. That's your computer querying each one of those 300 instances looking for their defed lists. The more software I add, the more instances you as a user have to query, the longer it takes to run a search. All in all I don't think I'll add support for any other software aside from Kbin and possibly Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 3 years ago Adding support for Kbin is definitely a priority. When I built that tool Kbin didn't have public defederation lists (yet?) though a pull request to implement that was in the works. Idk what's the status on that is, but as soon as it's merged I'll also add Kbin. For any other software it's a little trickier. Unless there some way to check for this through ActivityPub of which I'm not aware, I have to go through software specific steps to scan those instances. This means that for Lemmy I go through an API that only exists on Lemmy, when I'll add Kbin I'll have to write some new code that will only write for Kbin and so on. This isn't really sustainable for EVERY fedi platform out there, I won't do that. Moreover, as you saw there was a progress bar. That's your computer querying each one of those 300 instances looking for their defed lists. The more software I add, the more instances you as a user have to query, the longer it takes to run a search. All in all I don't think I'll add support for any other software aside from Kbin and possibly Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 years ago Nice! I'm bookmarking this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Incredibly useful tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bebo@sffa.community 2 points 3 years ago Great. This is so useful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago will add to home screen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago https://lemmy.world/instances Replace it with your instance domain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) If you find out please let me know too. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 3 years ago I built a tool for that https://defed.xyz permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 3 years ago I built a tool for that https://defed.xyz permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CassowaryTom@lemmy.one 4 points 3 years ago I found a link to a list of who is defederated from whom on a "fediverse for beginners" post. I will see if I can find it again if you need, but it looks like some other commenters already got you covered. permalink fedilink source parent