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Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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[–] 76 points 3 years ago (15 children)

I don't understand this. I cant even name a single community native to the instance I use. I picked one that hadn't defederated from anyone, and I block communities as needed. Also subscriptions are a thing.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    How do you find out if they defederated from instances?

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    https://defed.xyz

    Built by yours truly

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Do you have any plans to add support for showing when a Lemmy or Kbin instance has defederated from Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, Soapbox, Misskey, etc. instances? That seems to be the only flaw when tracking Lemmy deferations.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Adding support for Kbin is definitely a priority. When I built that tool Kbin didn't have public defederation lists (yet?) though a pull request to implement that was in the works. Idk what's the status on that is, but as soon as it's merged I'll also add Kbin.

    For any other software it's a little trickier. Unless there some way to check for this through ActivityPub of which I'm not aware, I have to go through software specific steps to scan those instances. This means that for Lemmy I go through an API that only exists on Lemmy, when I'll add Kbin I'll have to write some new code that will only write for Kbin and so on. This isn't really sustainable for EVERY fedi platform out there, I won't do that.

    Moreover, as you saw there was a progress bar. That's your computer querying each one of those 300 instances looking for their defed lists. The more software I add, the more instances you as a user have to query, the longer it takes to run a search. All in all I don't think I'll add support for any other software aside from Kbin and possibly Mastodon.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    I found a link to a list of who is defederated from whom on a "fediverse for beginners" post. I will see if I can find it again if you need, but it looks like some other commenters already got you covered.

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