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I'm fairly new and don't 100% understand it yet, but instances are run on servers that require money. Are we heading towards seeing ads or subscriptions to raise funds instead of relying on donations to cover overhead?

Especially with the influx of new users. Hardware upgrades are needed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Generally not trying to profit" - but we're all humans. If someone offered (hypothetical amount) $2M to "buy" an instance, which admins would sell?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

But why would you as a user stay on that instance?

If you start seeing ads and you don't want to, you move to another instance. If all instances start to serve ads and you don't want to see ads, you have to start your own instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

But who would stay on an instance with ads or something when there are thousands of options?

Hell, I made accounts on the top handful of instances just for situations in which one goes down for maintenance, or the admins do something weird (like defederating from big communities).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot. Lemmy fully deserves to have a lot of users, and a lot of users means a lot of opportunity to profit one way or the other, so the potential for profit-seeking behavior is there. So if we imagine a future where one instance has 500k users, it's easy to imagine the owners trying to take it beyond the break even point and making it as profitable as possible. Anyone who puts themselves through the trouble of hosting an instance deserves to make a good living, but we don't want predatory greedy policies.

The question is, how easy is it to migrate your account from one instance to the other? I haven't tried yet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to know that too. The solution I've seen mentioned is to just create your own instance to host your own account which is... easier said than done, lol.

It would be cool if we could keep offline backups of our accounts and "sync" them to an instance of our choosing. Migrating would be as simple as syncing up the backup to another instance. And importantly, it would be way easier than setting up one's own linux server, most people wouldn't even know where to start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a great idea, then each user owns their own info entirely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is there any community suggestions instance? Wouldn't mind making a post with a backups functionality request if one hasn't been made yet 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's true, an instance would be very tempted by that. I was referring more to the day to day, there's no incentive to squeeze users.