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[–] 1 point 10 hours ago (1 child)

The OC did not raise a valid criticism of our tax structure, or calling their statement that is a stretch. They complained at where it went, but not how our taxes are structured. You brought up a tax structure complaint, specifically a land value tax. That's not applicable to the primary thread although sure, I'm all for taxing landlords out of existence. Everyone should own the land they live on and part of the land they work on and part of the land their community is built on.

Now back to the primary thread, explain to me how the exchange of goods and services for money is taking money from working class people? Do you describe the baker as taking money from you? I know you don't because you aren't programmed to, so why not extend that same language to the government which (ideally) does the exact same thing.

I don't know how a society gets high quality public healthcare, research, transit, welfare, regulations, or defense without taxes. I think that's naieve given the current state of the world showing that when you remove or corrupt government from/in things like healthcare (for example in the US) you get a terrible healthcare system. Same with every other category. There is no country with strong defense that doesn't have a government and taxes, same with every other category I provided. Not to say what exists today bounds what can exist tomorrow but still.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago*

    "It sucks that they're taking our money by force, but at least it's going to something good."

    "That's not taking your money by force because it's necessary! Why, it's basically the same thing as choosing to hire a baker."

    "It's not necessary to take poor people's money by force."

    "What are you even blathering about? Wow, people here are getting worse. No offense."

    Nobody here is suggesting we get public healthcare, research, transit, or welfare without taxes. I'm suggesting that tax incidence is why the initial comment had to even qualify it. The lady doth protest too much.

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