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Divide & Rule is bad (thelemmy.club)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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Not sure if this is AI. If so, then it is an example that AI content need not always be bad.

But it is on who owns it and uses it for what. Collective control over AI, directing it for the benefit of the people would be good.

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Anyway, since this is causing discussion: Anyone with the meme making skills see a non-AI version of this? Or anyone who has the skills to do that? Or anyone who can share the tutorials to easily/quickly learn how to do that?

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[–] 14 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Ai bring controlled collective doesn't change shit about its insane and damaging water usage.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    You can generate AI locally.

    Also can we please stop talking about AI in terms of water usage? The amount of total carbon it emits is a much bigger concern.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    You trained that AI locally too? With only content you own?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    I don't pay for models in any way so I'm not responsible for the emissions during training. AI companies decided to create these emissions, not me.

    I did a bit of research and the full emissions of AI is relatively small compared to other things but still far from negligible. If we take this guardian article at face value the total emissions of AI is 80 million tonnes. Which is about 1.3% of total carbon emissions (about 6 billion tonnes). I did a bit of research and I just thought I'd share.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago (8 children)

    Does it use that much water? How does it compare to water use by regular datacenters?

    And if it is controlled by a collective, they can reduce wastage and use renewable sources, recycle water etc, without having the profit-only main motivation, right?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    "What are you worried about? I just use the plagiarism, propaganda, csam and deepfake machine created by technofascists to make political memes."

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    Indeed why the technofascists should not own and direct the tech and why the collective should be owning it.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    What "collective" owns locally run llms and slop generators?

    Who do you think you're paying for access to the software?

    What do you think that software was trained on?

    Or are you just trying to justify your use of the slop machine by claiming you're using it for some noble purpose?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Don't pay for access to AI. There are plenty of free ones.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago

    No product is free, if you don't pay anything, you are the product being sold.

    You 'pay' these companies by providing them with training data for their LLMs / you are the thing they are trained on. You as a user provide an endless supply of metadata they can sell.

    Just don't use the slop bot, it's literally as easy as that.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    What noble purpose?

    Spreading democracy and freedom, fighting authoritarianism, plagiarism etc?

    And I am not saying that the collective owns it now. I am saying that it should be under public ownership/control rather than the current scenario.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago

    What noble purpose? Spreading democracy and freedom, fighting authoritarianism, plagiarism etc?

    Yes, that noble purpose.

    So my questions remain:

    What democracy do you think you are spreading by using genAI?

    What authoritarianism are you fighting by paying the fascists for access to their slop bot?

    What plagiarism are you fighting by using the plagiarism bot?

    It isn't going to be collectively owned because it isn't made for the collective to own, and locally hosting a version of it isn't going to make it a tool of the masses.

    It's made to convince tech illiterate ceos and politicians to throw money at it until the techbros selling it can get their companies bailed out by the world governments that they convinced to put it into their mass surveillance and military systems.

    Paint.net and GIMP are two prime examples of free image editing software that I'd suggest using instead, because even a poorly drawn image made with a mouse in 10 minutes holds more value (literally, in almost all cases) than anything a slopbot is told to generate.

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