Divide & Rule is bad (thelemmy.club)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 

Not sure if this is AI. If so, then it is an example that AI content need not always be bad.

But it is on who owns it and uses it for what. Collective control over AI, directing it for the benefit of the people would be good.

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Anyway, since this is causing discussion: Anyone with the meme making skills see a non-AI version of this? Or anyone who has the skills to do that? Or anyone who can share the tutorials to easily/quickly learn how to do that?

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[–] 106 points 2 days ago (5 children)

„Not sure if this is AI”

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  • [–] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    He had a serious work accident and couldn't afford proper surgery, so he's forced to go to work with an arm sewed back on backward.

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  • [–] 89 points 2 days ago (16 children)

    This is ai and it's pretty bad lol

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  • [–] 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    The 4 panel is almost certainly AI, but the first panel is based on work originally by Denis Lushch from Australia and was first seen in 2019. I always thought the guy with all the cookies is supposed to be Rupert Murdoch.

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    [–] 14 points 1 day ago

    Yes its AI

    But you know what? That damn first panel (a version of it that isn't garbled by a bot, anyway) has been floating around forever. Getting a narrative arc to properly finish the point is... so very gratifying.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Really awkward formatting. Someone def made this in AI and then clumsily collaged them together.

    As for the "tool neutral, usage good" argument, I think of it like Operation Paperclip or Unit 731. Be damned sure the juice is worth the squeeze.

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    [–] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    You know it's slop and you posted it anyway?

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    [–] 15 points 2 days ago* (5 children)

    This is the best use for AI image generators imo: throwaway meme slop that isn't really supposed to look very good, wouldn't have been made otherwise, doesn't make any money off of other people's labor, and did not take away a labor opportunity/labor power from anyone. It's not like the AI companies are making money off of this, not even close, they're all bleeding to death.

    Oh it's wasting water and electricity? The water and electricity were already wasted by training, you can't un-waste the water or electricity. In fact, if you refuse to use the AI model they trained then the water and electricity were wasted for nothing!

    Oh it's plagiarism? Oh not precious property rights, I didn't realize we were fucking capitalists protecting the sanctity of copyright.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    In fact, if you refuse to use the AI model they trained then the water and electricity were wasted for nothing!

    Is that not a sunk cost fallacy?
    If it is very bad to use, we can choose not to use it. But if not, we can use it.

    Oh it's plagiarism? Oh not precious property rights, I didn't realize we were fucking capitalists protecting the sanctity of copyright.

    Yep.
    Tho, the prople who worked on the confent should be paid decently and also on how derivatives of the content maybe bad for future income and thus thy should provided a share of the income or given a one time settlement or whatever that would be good. Collective ownership would be good on that too. That is beyond AI, and the general nature of capitalism

    And regarding property rights, especially on memes, are not most memes plagiarising or creating derviatives or litrak copying without paying the original creator? Like, are not screenshots from movies, series, youtube videos etc. used without permission or payment? Is that bad? Are these folk against memes of all types?

    So, the issue is the earnings of the worker, right? And also attribution.
    Collective ownership would likely be the solution there.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago (1 child)

    Collective ownership would likely be the solution there.

    Why yes I do believe you are correct. In my opinion Collective Ownership of the means of production would be a great solution here. We could like... Build greenhouses around the data centers! Or even better; Build the greenhouses upwards over the data centers. Five story greenhouse heck yeah.

    Or we could just you know... stop using the data centers. :|

    p.s Why do we not capture the steam coming out of nuclear reactors cooling towers? I'm to lazy to look it up.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 19 hours ago

    Data centers are also used by the internet, youtube videos, other content being stored. Des the 'stop using data centers' aspect apply to those?
    Or is it for AI data centers?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Is that not a sunk cost fallacy?

    The sunk cost fallacy would be "we've already invested so much into AI, we have to keep investing into AI to make it worthwhile!" As long as we're not pouring more resources into AI there isn't an issue. An AI model that is already trained won't be untrained because we stop using it, after all.

    It's like freeganism.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    It’s not an example of AI usage being good, on account of it’s soulless garbage slop with unbalanced pacing, which adds nothing to the original strip that it was stolen from

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    [–] 17 points 2 days ago

    I mean the hard hat turning into a baseball hat shows it's clearly AI lmao

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (12 children)

    Ai bring controlled collective doesn't change shit about its insane and damaging water usage.

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    [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    Just make a shitty meme instead of offloading the work to ai so it can make a shittier meme. I'd much rather people make crappy stick person comics in paint than someone waste resources and time waiting for ai slop to be churned out that doesn't come close to being creative or coherent.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    the construction worker's left hand is a right hand in the third panel. he may want to see a doctor

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    [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It's ai and tree died for this

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 day ago

    How many trees?

    And how many tress did our comments here take? How manu trees does a youtube or porn video being streamed or uploaded take?

    Or is it the issue that the output does not have enough value for a tree to have died for it?

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