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A Reminder (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 30 points 3 weeks ago* (20 children)

I dunno, America problems and corruptions were there on day one, your founding fathers were total monsters.

Dont think Carter's policies could have changed your course that much.

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  • [–] 50 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    The US founding fathers were less monstrous than most other rulers of the time. You have to give credit where credit is due. And yes, both Carter and Gore could have set the country on a fundamentally different course. That certainly wouldn't have solved every problem, but shit would be a lot less fucked than it is today.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    I really hate when people are like “If it doesn’t solve for 100% it’s not worth it”… moving the needle slowly over time has its benefits. Hell it’s what the GOP has been doing by ratcheting us to the right. Imagine if it had gone the other way.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Lmao. I guess if you ignore the slavery part.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    No matter WHERE you are the US using less fossil fuels would've meant less climate change which means fewer disasters and climate issues everywhere, to say nothing for how it would've sped development of renewables more generally and had a knock-on effect worldwide.

    America is undeniably a corrupt shithole - but virtue signaling against good policy to get a cheap punch in is childish and imbecilic.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (9 children)

    I mean, they fled Europe for religious freedom, doesn't sound like anyone else was better so that's kinda moot.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The Puritans actually left because they were religious hardliners that the church wouldn't tolerate, iirc. But that was more than a century before the revolutionary war.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The puritans didn't flee Europe for religious freedom, they fled Europe for the "freedom" to establish a society where they could force everyone to follow their religion. They were also only a fraction of people who settled America, many more were just looking to get rich quick.

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