LoglineA time ripple damages the Enterprise, forcing young and old Uhura to cooperate and fix the timeline.

Written by: Henry Alonso Myers & Robbie Thompson

Directed by: Chris Fisher

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[–] [S] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

I thought Pike was still a Captain during The Menagerie, but Memory Alpha says he was a Fleet Captain, which I guess is a billet and not an official rank?

SNW has played fast-and-loose with what was established in "The Menagerie" - Kirk does call Pike "Fleet Captain" at the beginning of the message, and goes on to tell Commodore Mendez that he met Pike when he was promoted to fleet captain. It's not explicitly stated, but the obvious implication is that this was the only time Kirk met Pike.

But, Pike has already been temporarily promoted to fleet captain, back in "Lost In Translation." He does indeed meet Jim Kirk in that episode, which basically fulfills what Kirk said in TOS. Obviously, they've met many times since then, but it doesn't technically break anything, even though it clearly wasn't the original intent back in "The Menagerie".

I thought I didn’t enjoy this season, but it turns out I actually did. So…there is that.

I actually think this will end up being a common opinion. For all the hand-wringing about the "gimmicks," I think every individual episode was...fine, at worst. And I would strongly recommend taking another look at "A Case of Chiaroscuro" some day - I think it's pretty top-tier.

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  • [–] 6 points 23 hours ago

    It’s not explicitly stated, but the obvious implication is that this was the only time Kirk met Pike.

    Fortunately, there's just enough wiggle room to accept the alternate explanation that Kirk is saying "I've known him since his promotion to Fleet Captain".

    The other slightly odd bit of mild discontinuity is that half of the main TOS characters in The Menagerie Part I (Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Scotty) know Captain Pike very very well, but none of them aside from Spock act like they do, nor do they display any dismay at discovering what's happened to their dear former captain (which Kirk only learns on visiting the base). Spock evidently has known for some time; long enough to have concocted his scheme and write the necessary route into a computer auto-navigation program, at least. But it's not clear whether anyone else found out before the episode. In any case, there isn't enough dialogue for these other characters in the episode to draw any concrete conclusions either way.

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