▲ 23 ▼ Venezuela's Rodriguez promises elections in transition to 'full democracy' (www.reuters.com) submitted 1 day ago by Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments Can we settle the debate about Delcy Rodriguez now? She was probably within a couple kilometers from Maduro and didn't mention his kidnapping once in her address.
[–] orlando@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children) what's an "ultra-leftist" to a communist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 day ago (2 children) left-communists, who are against concessions of any kind, usually with a very idealist vision of socialism. lenin wrote a pamphlet about it "left-wing communism: an infantile disorder" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orlando@hexbear.net -7 points 1 day ago (1 child) you can't make concessions after you capitulate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago the PSUV is still in power, isnt it? communes are still functioning? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago It's a term for those who make dogmatic or adventurist errors in judgement. In practical example, there was the famous theory of "social imperialism" as supposedly practiced by the USSR. This theory did not correctly grasp the nature of imperialism nor the Soviet Union's actual material processes, but served as a wedge by which those could oppose the Soviet Union while adhering to nominally left politics. Essentially, ultraleftism is confusing allies for enemies, which very frequently turns into its opposite, confusing enemies for allies, like those on the "left" that support NATO against the PRC because the PRC has supposedly "taken the capitalist road." permalink fedilink source parent [–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago Ultra-Leftists are typically other communists who are not rooting their actions and methods in material reality. This false consciousness held by ultra-leftists leads to incorrect theoretical and practical conclusions. Conclusions that can endanger the movement itself. Practical concessions need to be made if the reality of the situation demands it. Ultra-Leftism, an Infintile Disorder by Lenin, covers this topic in around 90 pages. Worth reading if you haven't. Marxism is a living science and, as such, can adapt and evolve as conditions change. To not do so would lead to dogmatism and inflexibility, which undermine the communist movement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago It is the kind of people who will shoot Lenin for Brest-Litovsk treaty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 1 day ago (3 children) Usually other communists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orlando@hexbear.net -4 points 1 day ago (2 children) well that's a redundant and liberalist thing to call oneself, unless one isn't a communist after all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) As Lenin said, "one must always strive to be as radical as reality itself." Radicalism itself isn't the point, and being radical beyond reality turns from progress into its opposite, reaction. Ineffective strategy hampers the movement, we need to have effective strategy and tactics, and we discover this through the unity of theory and practice, praxis. Peru's Shining Path is a famous example of confusing allies for enemies, alienating the masses and destroying the movement. The origin of dogmatism can often be in failing to take an all-sided view of contradictions. Both the totality and the particularity of a contradiction must be viewed to avoid superficiality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* I don't understand your criticism. People don't call themselves ultra leftist. They call other people that when they take positions that are in advance of what's currently possible as an effective action For example, advocating for an armed insurrection in the US and gathering a dozen people to storm the Pentagon the next weekend would be ultra leftism. So that advocate might be a communist, but theyre taking an action that won't advance the movement and will just get them and their comrades killed. Ultra leftism is the flip side of tailism or right opportunism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 day ago (2 children) left-communists, who are against concessions of any kind, usually with a very idealist vision of socialism. lenin wrote a pamphlet about it "left-wing communism: an infantile disorder" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orlando@hexbear.net -7 points 1 day ago (1 child) you can't make concessions after you capitulate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago the PSUV is still in power, isnt it? communes are still functioning? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] orlando@hexbear.net -7 points 1 day ago (1 child) you can't make concessions after you capitulate permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago the PSUV is still in power, isnt it? communes are still functioning? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago the PSUV is still in power, isnt it? communes are still functioning? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago It's a term for those who make dogmatic or adventurist errors in judgement. In practical example, there was the famous theory of "social imperialism" as supposedly practiced by the USSR. This theory did not correctly grasp the nature of imperialism nor the Soviet Union's actual material processes, but served as a wedge by which those could oppose the Soviet Union while adhering to nominally left politics. Essentially, ultraleftism is confusing allies for enemies, which very frequently turns into its opposite, confusing enemies for allies, like those on the "left" that support NATO against the PRC because the PRC has supposedly "taken the capitalist road." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago Ultra-Leftists are typically other communists who are not rooting their actions and methods in material reality. This false consciousness held by ultra-leftists leads to incorrect theoretical and practical conclusions. Conclusions that can endanger the movement itself. Practical concessions need to be made if the reality of the situation demands it. Ultra-Leftism, an Infintile Disorder by Lenin, covers this topic in around 90 pages. Worth reading if you haven't. Marxism is a living science and, as such, can adapt and evolve as conditions change. To not do so would lead to dogmatism and inflexibility, which undermine the communist movement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago It is the kind of people who will shoot Lenin for Brest-Litovsk treaty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 1 day ago (3 children) Usually other communists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orlando@hexbear.net -4 points 1 day ago (2 children) well that's a redundant and liberalist thing to call oneself, unless one isn't a communist after all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) As Lenin said, "one must always strive to be as radical as reality itself." Radicalism itself isn't the point, and being radical beyond reality turns from progress into its opposite, reaction. Ineffective strategy hampers the movement, we need to have effective strategy and tactics, and we discover this through the unity of theory and practice, praxis. Peru's Shining Path is a famous example of confusing allies for enemies, alienating the masses and destroying the movement. The origin of dogmatism can often be in failing to take an all-sided view of contradictions. Both the totality and the particularity of a contradiction must be viewed to avoid superficiality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* I don't understand your criticism. People don't call themselves ultra leftist. They call other people that when they take positions that are in advance of what's currently possible as an effective action For example, advocating for an armed insurrection in the US and gathering a dozen people to storm the Pentagon the next weekend would be ultra leftism. So that advocate might be a communist, but theyre taking an action that won't advance the movement and will just get them and their comrades killed. Ultra leftism is the flip side of tailism or right opportunism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orlando@hexbear.net -4 points 1 day ago (2 children) well that's a redundant and liberalist thing to call oneself, unless one isn't a communist after all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) As Lenin said, "one must always strive to be as radical as reality itself." Radicalism itself isn't the point, and being radical beyond reality turns from progress into its opposite, reaction. Ineffective strategy hampers the movement, we need to have effective strategy and tactics, and we discover this through the unity of theory and practice, praxis. Peru's Shining Path is a famous example of confusing allies for enemies, alienating the masses and destroying the movement. The origin of dogmatism can often be in failing to take an all-sided view of contradictions. Both the totality and the particularity of a contradiction must be viewed to avoid superficiality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* I don't understand your criticism. People don't call themselves ultra leftist. They call other people that when they take positions that are in advance of what's currently possible as an effective action For example, advocating for an armed insurrection in the US and gathering a dozen people to storm the Pentagon the next weekend would be ultra leftism. So that advocate might be a communist, but theyre taking an action that won't advance the movement and will just get them and their comrades killed. Ultra leftism is the flip side of tailism or right opportunism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) As Lenin said, "one must always strive to be as radical as reality itself." Radicalism itself isn't the point, and being radical beyond reality turns from progress into its opposite, reaction. Ineffective strategy hampers the movement, we need to have effective strategy and tactics, and we discover this through the unity of theory and practice, praxis. Peru's Shining Path is a famous example of confusing allies for enemies, alienating the masses and destroying the movement. The origin of dogmatism can often be in failing to take an all-sided view of contradictions. Both the totality and the particularity of a contradiction must be viewed to avoid superficiality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* I don't understand your criticism. People don't call themselves ultra leftist. They call other people that when they take positions that are in advance of what's currently possible as an effective action For example, advocating for an armed insurrection in the US and gathering a dozen people to storm the Pentagon the next weekend would be ultra leftism. So that advocate might be a communist, but theyre taking an action that won't advance the movement and will just get them and their comrades killed. Ultra leftism is the flip side of tailism or right opportunism permalink fedilink source parent