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Say It With Us: Paola Nogales-Ascarrunz (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 4 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Hey some of us can't tell races easily, she just looks like any white woman

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    What if she's not a woman? or white? or real? Maybe she's trans. Not transgender... transdimensional.

    Maybe they exist in a space that occupies your mind but not on this physical plane? What if all we see of them is but a piece of the knowable whole and our perceptions give it the shape of what we think it should be? Like an iceberg breaching through dimensional surface, forced into focus by our rules of reality.

    How else could they discover that which was unknown?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    You are just not racist enough. Let's hear it from Ben Franklin (emphasis mine, on top delusion).

    Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    She doesn't look white to me. She looks hispanic to me.

    A person being not black doesn't make them white.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    There's still disagreement on whether Hispanic means white or not.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    People from Hispania (you know where the word HIspanic derives from) aka Spain are considered white. To me it's weird that the label Hispanic automatically means not white.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    I think there's added confusion because Caucasian ≠ White either. Indians are caucasians (look up pictures of albino Indian people and they just look like white Europeans).

    I've always chuckled at African American = Black too. My wife went to school with a kid whose parents were African immigrants. Kid entered an African American art contest, won, then had his award taken away because he was white.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago

    Elon Musk is African-American. I went to high school with a guy who was a Muslim from Africa. Guess what, also white and from South Africa.

    (Yeah I know white South Africans are anthropologically generally more recently from Europe than Africa; this is just a criticism of the term "African-American".)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago

    The term Caucasian is utterly meaningless and comes from the ancient Three Great Races theory. You know, the three great races of which every other race is a subtype: Caucasian, Mongoloid, Negroid.

    Here's a helpful map so you can tell who is Caucasian and who isn't:

    As for your question: You can see Southern Indians are not yet categorized for certain. Only North Western Indians are certainly Caucasian. Maybe in the future we will learn more about these mysterious people.

    Hungarians are Mongoloids by the way.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago*

    I mean, the French are named after a Germanic tribe but they're not Germanic, Bulgarians are Slavs even though they're named after a Turkic tribe, and Macedonians are Slavs who are named after an ancient Greek kingdom.

    Names have weird histories and shouldn't be treated literally.

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