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FDP seems to be over (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Ja und nächstes Jahr werden sie in NRW und Schleswig-Holstein auch raus fliegen, in hohem Bogen. Und niemand wird sich je an diese Partei erinnern. Zurecht sag ich, mit Linder und Kubicki diesen vollkommene Egoisten...

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago

    Germany - Deutschland but in English ;)

    Yes, and next year they’ll be kicked out of North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein too – in a big way. And no one will ever remember this party. I’m right to say that, with Linder and Kubicki – those complete egoists...

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    Wie hat sich so eine Partei überhaupt Jahzehnten lang in der Politik erhalten? War ihr Angebot historisch unterschiedlich von dem, für was sie sich heute einsetzt?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child)

    Die spielen schon seit Jahrzehnten das gleiche Spiel. Alle paar Wahlperioden Erstwähler mit einer gezielten Werbekampagne verarschen, ihr Kreuz bei der FDP zu machen, dann maximal korrupte Klientelpolitik, draufhin eine Zeit lang den Ball flach halten und das Gleiche von vorne.

    Die FDP ist so korrupt, dass sie nicht im Geringsten auf die staatliche Parteienfinanzierung angewiesen ist, um groß angelegte Werbekampagnen zu fahren und ihr Spitzenpersonal fürstlich zu bezahlen. Die können das Spiel sehr lange spielen, solange die Ergebnisse für die Geldgeber stimmen.

    Germany - Deutschland but in English ;)

    The question was how the FDP could keep its place in the German political spectrum for decades.

    The answer is really simple. They have been doing this for decades. Fool naive first-time voters with a targeted campaign to vote for FDP, then do maximally corrupt clientele politics, afterwards lay low for a bit, and then rinse and repeat.

    The FDP is so incredibly corrupt it doesn't need (vote count based) state financing for political parties in order to pay for large scale advertising campaigns, and to pay their leadership obscene salaries. They can play this game very long, as long as the results for their financial backers are right.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago

    @SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml To add to the above comment: in the early years of the Federal Republic the FDP was more or less the king maker. SPD and CDU had the major share of votes but needed a coalition partner to form the government. FDP was the third party in parliament and thus the only option.

    This early FDP had a social-liberal wing as well (mostly in northern Germany) which would make coalitions with the SPD possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    They always saw themselves ad the kingmaker and presented themselves as a liberal alternative to the other parties. Although effectively they forgot about everything liberal besides their economic policies as soon as they got into power.

    Effectively they and the CDU/CSU were symbiotes of one another. The CDU always could pretend to be more conservative on economic things and then drop this for their FDP partners, while the FDP by sheer necessity had to drop all their topics besides market-liberalism.

    This worked, and I think people knew that if you voted FDP you would get CDU politics anyway, but you could say you didn't vote for them.

    And I mean, the last time FDP went into a coalition with someone besides the CDU/CSU they basically acted as fifth columnists.

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