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Does it seem like religious people are less animal friendly? (sh.itjust.works)
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I have been noting this more recently and it seems to be a trend, at least with people I converse with on the regular. The really religious types aren't animal people or downright dont like them. The more chill or agnostic types seem to be more apt to love animals.

I could go on my theory of this but I'm interested to see if anyone thinks this is a trend.

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[–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

As a vegan, the most annoying people are religious people (specially abrahamic believers) and their unbreakable logic: 'If God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he give them to us' Imo that reflects their attitude towards animals: they don't see them as a living beings, but rather as things to be used.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I think it's more to do with religious people coming from rural backgrounds.

    Eating meat was a celebratory thing when I was still living in rural Turkey, so at first vegetarianism seemed like "a spoiled western thing"

    In my mind it was grouped next to those ragebait videos of 14 year olds yelling at their mom for getting the wrong iphone model.

    Animal cruelty argument didn't work great either because, "I only eat halal certified anyway."

    Content warning : Religion. Don't tap if you don't want to learn what "halal food" is.

    Highlighted in blue: "halal only if they are treated like sentient beings, and slaughtered painlessly" Full paragraph: "Herbivores, cud-chewing animals like cattle, deer, sheep, goats, and antelope are some examples of animals that are halal only if they are treated like sentient beings and slaughtered painlessly while reciting the basmala and takbir. If the animal is treated poorly or tortured while being slaughtered, the meat is haram. Forbidden food substances include alcohol, pork, frog, carrion, and animals that died due to illness, injury, stunning, poisoning, or slaughtering not in the name of God." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_dietary_laws

    Note: It sounds decent, especially for early 7th century Arabia standards, but no multi-billion industry is following regulations that make them less profit to 100%.

    What DID convince me near instantly was someone showing how the meat industry is all exploitative and corrupt.

    They waste workers, water, and animal lives on purpose because it's more profitable than proper logistics. Fucking cruel looking into it, crazy they aren't being universally boycotted already.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    In good faith I am asking why vegans don't consider vegetables to be living things.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    They are living, not sentient tho.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    you can't prove they are not sentient

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Or that animals are

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Do you have a pet or have ever been close to an animal? If so you'd know.

    Here an example of some cows if you can see that and say animals are not sentient than I have nothing else to say to say to you as it would just be a waste of time.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    You're right, I confused sentience for sapience, my bad! Of course that means plants are absolutely sentient, as we know for sure they can feel and hear. So we're back to the beginning question, why does veganism care about the sentience of Animalia but not the sentience of Plantae or Fungi?

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