Two jmen (I hold jman and master), two apprentices. Other jman besides myself has worked at a union shop in the past as a non-union employee and has stated he would vote for unionizing the shop im at.

Of the two apprentices, one who rides w me most says he would join if given the chance. The other one is open to union membership so a likely, but not a certain vote for it.

That being said, about a week ago, I reached out to my local UA, and got email back today. I have plans to meet up with someone Monday coming up, after work to discuss it.

So that being said I have some questions with me being a union member myself. I'm not officially a manager, my title is 'lead plumber' but I do a lot more than that. I schedule inspections, pull permits, give estimates for work, I supervise the new guy(s) when they need it, plan out the days work, read prints and make take-off lists for projects. I cannot hire/fire/promote/give raises/field complaints. maybe 75% of our repeat customer base just calls me directly to schedule appointments instead of the office. I have keys, credit cards and can write checks if nobody can find the owner. Am I considered a manager? Re-reading that I sure feel like I am. Managers can't be in a union can they? I have no idea what it makes me officially, but unofficially I feel like management or something similar.

Am I asking stupid questions? I suppose the person I will see Monday can tell me. Is it something I need to bring to their attention? Do I cancel because I'm a manager? I'm really sorry for the stupid questions.

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[–] 5 points 4 days ago

Supervisors cannot be in the same bargaining unit as their subordinates. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be considered a statutory supervisor though. To meet that definition you need to somewhat regularly exercise independent judgement on behalf of the business (as in you need to make non-routine decisions about what would be in the business' best interest). Hiring, firing, disciplining, and assigning work usually make you a supervisor but if you don't do any of that it gets a bit murkier.

For instance, buying parts to do a job wouldn't be considered supervisory duties. If you could cut a check to hire a subcontractor that probably would be supervisory. Planning out work probably wouldn't be unless you're assigning people to different job sites.

Still you should bring it up when you meet with the union rep.

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