Two jmen (I hold jman and master), two apprentices. Other jman besides myself has worked at a union shop in the past as a non-union employee and has stated he would vote for unionizing the shop im at.

Of the two apprentices, one who rides w me most says he would join if given the chance. The other one is open to union membership so a likely, but not a certain vote for it.

That being said, about a week ago, I reached out to my local UA, and got email back today. I have plans to meet up with someone Monday coming up, after work to discuss it.

So that being said I have some questions with me being a union member myself. I'm not officially a manager, my title is 'lead plumber' but I do a lot more than that. I schedule inspections, pull permits, give estimates for work, I supervise the new guy(s) when they need it, plan out the days work, read prints and make take-off lists for projects. I cannot hire/fire/promote/give raises/field complaints. maybe 75% of our repeat customer base just calls me directly to schedule appointments instead of the office. I have keys, credit cards and can write checks if nobody can find the owner. Am I considered a manager? Re-reading that I sure feel like I am. Managers can't be in a union can they? I have no idea what it makes me officially, but unofficially I feel like management or something similar.

Am I asking stupid questions? I suppose the person I will see Monday can tell me. Is it something I need to bring to their attention? Do I cancel because I'm a manager? I'm really sorry for the stupid questions.

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[–] 13 points 4 days ago

If they are smart, your employer will argue you are a supervisor if you are pro-union because it would remove a vote against their own interest. Any semi-competent employer will attempt to fool around with the composition of bargaining units to influence things in their favor.

If the union thinks this is an unwinnable fight they will tell you, but also if they aren't total fuck ups, suggest a path forward for the job in general.

Always, labor law is merely a concession granted to workers to diminish our power. The apparent miasma of class interests where many are kinda a manager/super is a strategy to confuse us out of standing with one another. And look, it works. If you think a union will benefit everyone, then go forward until you are definitively stopped by an external force.

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