▲ 108 ▼ Only ‘idiots’ expect North Korea to give up nuclear weapons: Kim Yo-jong (www.scmp.com) submitted 1 day ago by MashedHobbits@lemy.lol to c/world@quokk.au 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 41 points 1 day ago (6 children) Looks at Ukraine and the Budapest Memorandum Hard to argue with Kim here. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 child) Hell, looks at Iran. North Korea got nukes and now their leader is parading his daughter on a tank and preparing her to succeed him. Iran tried to negotiate and their now-leader's father, wife and children are all dead. Given the crippling sanctions already on Iran, one approach is clearly more successful than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago I haven't seen much evidence that Kim Ju-Ae is being raised as a "successor," KJU has an elected position. I do think he is preparing her for politics, but it may not be in the capacity of General Secretary of the WPK or anything like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago (3 children) I bet Iran will now. They’d be pretty stupid if they didn’t. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children) Iran has something the DPRK does not, though, Hormuz. It's essentially an economic nuke, though obviously it isn't as effective at preventing attack, it seems very effective at flipping the tides without inviting an actual nuke on them in retaliation like MAD doctrine would result in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 point 22 hours ago* (1 child) It's sort of one-time-use though. Now that it's been used, the gulf states are building pipelines to bypass the gulf and vulnerable countries are taking the opportunity to decarbonize. If the straight opened tomorrow, these countries would continue those efforts to reduce their strategic vulnerability. It won't be as strong of a deterrent the second time around. Also, a nuke is supposed to deter aggression. It didn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago It's not a 1 to 1, and the strait still provides a huge capacity for oil flow that pipelines do not have. Further still, the world is transitioning to solar (at greater and lesser rates), reducing the importance of pipelines anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 child) Hell, looks at Iran. North Korea got nukes and now their leader is parading his daughter on a tank and preparing her to succeed him. Iran tried to negotiate and their now-leader's father, wife and children are all dead. Given the crippling sanctions already on Iran, one approach is clearly more successful than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago I haven't seen much evidence that Kim Ju-Ae is being raised as a "successor," KJU has an elected position. I do think he is preparing her for politics, but it may not be in the capacity of General Secretary of the WPK or anything like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago I haven't seen much evidence that Kim Ju-Ae is being raised as a "successor," KJU has an elected position. I do think he is preparing her for politics, but it may not be in the capacity of General Secretary of the WPK or anything like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago (3 children) I bet Iran will now. They’d be pretty stupid if they didn’t. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children) Iran has something the DPRK does not, though, Hormuz. It's essentially an economic nuke, though obviously it isn't as effective at preventing attack, it seems very effective at flipping the tides without inviting an actual nuke on them in retaliation like MAD doctrine would result in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 point 22 hours ago* (1 child) It's sort of one-time-use though. Now that it's been used, the gulf states are building pipelines to bypass the gulf and vulnerable countries are taking the opportunity to decarbonize. If the straight opened tomorrow, these countries would continue those efforts to reduce their strategic vulnerability. It won't be as strong of a deterrent the second time around. Also, a nuke is supposed to deter aggression. It didn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago It's not a 1 to 1, and the strait still provides a huge capacity for oil flow that pipelines do not have. Further still, the world is transitioning to solar (at greater and lesser rates), reducing the importance of pipelines anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children) Iran has something the DPRK does not, though, Hormuz. It's essentially an economic nuke, though obviously it isn't as effective at preventing attack, it seems very effective at flipping the tides without inviting an actual nuke on them in retaliation like MAD doctrine would result in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 point 22 hours ago* (1 child) It's sort of one-time-use though. Now that it's been used, the gulf states are building pipelines to bypass the gulf and vulnerable countries are taking the opportunity to decarbonize. If the straight opened tomorrow, these countries would continue those efforts to reduce their strategic vulnerability. It won't be as strong of a deterrent the second time around. Also, a nuke is supposed to deter aggression. It didn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago It's not a 1 to 1, and the strait still provides a huge capacity for oil flow that pipelines do not have. Further still, the world is transitioning to solar (at greater and lesser rates), reducing the importance of pipelines anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 point 22 hours ago* (1 child) It's sort of one-time-use though. Now that it's been used, the gulf states are building pipelines to bypass the gulf and vulnerable countries are taking the opportunity to decarbonize. If the straight opened tomorrow, these countries would continue those efforts to reduce their strategic vulnerability. It won't be as strong of a deterrent the second time around. Also, a nuke is supposed to deter aggression. It didn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago It's not a 1 to 1, and the strait still provides a huge capacity for oil flow that pipelines do not have. Further still, the world is transitioning to solar (at greater and lesser rates), reducing the importance of pipelines anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago It's not a 1 to 1, and the strait still provides a huge capacity for oil flow that pipelines do not have. Further still, the world is transitioning to solar (at greater and lesser rates), reducing the importance of pipelines anyways. permalink fedilink source parent