I'm speaking broadly because I really don't want to start a fight here. It feels like many sides will never ever yield on anything and honestly, I've grown tired of the constant fighting

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People need to look beyond the noise generated in US media and examine how it is being utilized in China. They started with open source, discovered how it would actually be used by developers and people, then built the systems. US was, let's spend billions, force people to use what we create, then drop an IPO to get our investment back.

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