CW: suicide, drug mention, ableism, islamophobia

I've loved politics ever since I was spergy little 10-year-old watching the fucking Glenn Beck Program (don't ask). I grew to love sociology in my teen years, and I always knew a bunch of rare facts like how the Soviet Union ended the gender pay gap in Eastern Europe over 50 years ago, or how queer acceptance scales almost exclusively with HDI, but I was severely limited by the aforementioned Standard American Upbringing.

It was so goddamn easy and enjoyable to talk to people about politics back then, especially since I hated both US parties and was essentially a Bernie Bro. I was able to fluently relate to and discuss common grievances of people within the US and without while being proud of my (in comparison) vast knowledge.

However, in 2025 I got caught up in the Chinamaxxing craze and after a couple months of study (Governance of China my beloved) I sort of crossed a threshold and all of the liberal sophistry I had once loved became nails on a chalkboard.

I genuinely can't talk to people about politics anymore without wanting to blow my brains out or feeling like I'm smuggling fentanyl precursor in my asshole OR being treated like a schizophrenic islamist talking about the CIA and US war crimes.

TAKE ME BAAAAAAACK I WANNA BE A WESTERN CHAUVANIST AGAIN I WANNA FEEL SMART AND ENLIGHTENED. FUCK YOU LENIN I DONT WANNA READ ANY MORE THEORY, PLEASE

edit: guys, I promise I'm not actually a chud anymore, and I have the Kim Il-Sung x Osama Bin Laden self-insert yaoi fanfiction to prove it.

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[–] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

Being a liberal is easy because you don't understand anything at all and just get to constantly appeal to "the authorities" and "the experts" for all your opinions, without any understanding at all of why the experts believe that.

Me becoming a Marxist did not just affect my views on economics and sociology, but I started to want to understand every field a bit better. When you start learning other fields, you realize that ideology is a lot more widespread than just in socioeconomics.

Once you free your mind of this notation that "institutions must be trusted without question," you can instead ask yourself, why do the institutions believe these things? And if you study them, no matter the institution, you will many good reasons certain things are believed, but also, you will find that certain things are not actually believed for good reason. Even physics departments are filled with ideology.

But people cannot grasp this because their mind always jumps to "the institutions are perfect," so even if you lay out a mountain of papers and evidence showing it, they literally mentally cannot comprehend them because there is no way that their "trusted institution" can be questioned at all, so they just jump to accusing you of being a crazy crackpot flat-earther for not automatically agreeing with the institutions.

At least for me, belief is not a choice. I believe things because I have thought through the arguments and it made sense to me. That means, for me to stop believing something, you have to show me where the argument breaks down, or that it contradicts with some other evidence.

But liberals don't think that way. They believe things because "the institutions" tell them. So if you disagree, they will just flame you for not agreeing with "the institutions." For me, no matter how many dozens of people flame me for not agreeing, it doesn't change my mind, because no one tells me why the institutions believe that. Even the liberals themselves can rarely explain to you the actual arguments and justifications, they just tell you that you're crazy for not automatically believing it at face-value, meaning that's how the liberal mind thinks.

Liberals can, somehow, choose to believe things without any understanding of them, even on the most surface level. I can't do that. Even if it's a really complicated field that it's not practical I'll understand in great detail, you should still at least be able to provide to me a very surface-level argument that makes sense to justify why I should believe a claim from that field, or else I simply cannot believe it, because I can't force myself to believe things. For me it's not a choice, but for liberals it is.

I always feel insane being seen as the "contrarian" everywhere I go because I always ask "why" and that always upsets people. Being a liberal is easy because you can just trust whatever you're told and not think about things too hard and believe everything will work out. The political institutions, the economic institutions, they are all this way for a good reason and you don't need to worry about why, because the "experts" in "the institutions" all figured it out already for you, so everything will be okay.

You see this in how liberals respond to any argument that things could be different or better. You point out that the US's health care system sucks and even a lot of "moderate liberals" will immediately jump to "explanations" in their head saying well it's cuz the US is "too big" or something like that, a similar "explanation" they use when you point out its lack of public transport like trains.

It's something I've noticed a lot. You criticize something about the current order and you can tell that no gears turn in the liberal's head that even processes the criticism and even considers it legitimate for a moment. Instead, they immediately go to looking for "explanations" to justify the current order because they always assume it's, again, implemented for a good reason, and it is really hard to get them out of that mindset of accepting that everything is implemented for a good reason.

Humans are basically just slightly smarter versions of monkeys. We are not some perfect species of hyperintelligent Gods that makes no mistakes. All of our institutions are very flawed, some more than others, and if you have any sort of intellectual curiosity at all to ask "why," then you will inevitably find yourself ruthlessly criticizing all that exists. But that also makes you the endless contrarian and seem like a crazy person, because most the time, liberals don't even understand your criticism, because they don't understand the beliefs they endorse to begin with.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    To be honest, it seems my personal experience is they beat the imagination out of us. We can't imagine anything but vagueries or sheer fantasy, or the stark reality of what we've got. We need to know magic is real, but it's not painting roses red, it's using our youth, vigor and intellect to do the learning and the hard, dirty work.

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