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[–] 21 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

That's the funny thing right? I'm not going to say it would be moral to say "ok no trans ppl in sports but every other trans issue we win on" - I think total victory is the best strategy - but that would at least be something without an obvious answer. Would it worth sacrificing the very few trans kids who want to play sports for the broader community? It's not a comfortable question (and my voice wouldn't matter in it) but there's a real question there if every other trans issue was accepted, then maybe it's worth the retreat on sports.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS ON OFFER. There's no exchange for the trans sports issue. It's not like there's a compromise where right wing freaks lay off social transitioning in return or quit screaming about minors transitioning in general. What pisses me off so much is capitulation on the sports issue wins liberals nothing. It doesn't actually protect people, it really just ratchet effects the issue in the worst way possible.

I should say, I'm not trans myself so this is just my perspective as a leftist in solidarity with our trans comrades, but it's like maddening to see capitulation to right wing framing for zero return

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  • [–] 17 points 3 hours ago

    I just don't think you could ever have an opposition who would accept peace in exchange for no trans women in sports. The opposition isn't a fan of women voting despite it being codified. The enemy is a death cult, remember. And when it's not a white property owning man who is physically fit and preferably not Irish then it's drama.

    I feel confident in any governing body's ability to go on a case by case basis the same way the speed running website can deal with the way that Ocarina of Time on the Chinese console technically has less lag than an N64. I think they're capable of sniffing out bad faith lolcows, YouTubers, and Kick streamers.

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