NOTE: I am NOT defending AI or it's usage or anything like that. So just tie that horse right back up at the kitchen sink. I don't like the whole AI thing. This post is not about AI.

I get that it was necessary at first, but now whenever there's any hint of AI, there's a great chorus of everyone saying the same thing 'AI slop bla bla bla' like a gaggle of sheep jerking their knees.

It's not fucking helpful. It only sows even more division among the peasants, while the oligarchs take zero notice and continue on as usual. The correct way to engage with AI content you don't like is just not at all.

Examples:

Recently I watched as a post for a community event was removed, because it had an AI image. The image was not requested or created by the organiser, it was provided to them, and had information in several languages. But the post was removed because AI slop and now there is less human connection happening. Yay. Well fucking done. You literally are helping the AI overlords now.

I've seen many actual legit digital artists getting hit with the cries of AI slop and even banned, when they have been making art for years before AI was even a thing. People actually can't tell the difference half the time when they think they can, and end up hurting real artists.

Now is not the time to be attacking each other over using AI to generate some stupid meme. There are much, MUCH bigger issues at stake right now, and calling everything AI slop does nothing to help.

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[–] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

Ok, but given the massive costs in energy and clean water are borne by all those "intolerable" people, I'm gonna go with they are the ones in the right here. Your arguments sound exactly like the kind of shit Exxon executives said about fossil fuels in the 90s.

When you have a 100% locally hosted AI powered by your private solar or wind array and cooled without pulling any water from a local water table,nyou can go back to smugly deriding the "intolerable" and "smug" people making demands of you, but as long as your slop-slinging is affecting all of us you have to hear about it as a bare minimum consequence.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago*

    I do use locally hosted AI and haven't used anything else in quite a while (in part because I agree with some of the criticisms), but yes, it uses resources. About the same as playing a videogame, I tested it with an outlet meter. As much as I do actually go out of my way to live in a way that limits my carbon footprint (relevant example: I throttle my GPU's maximum wattage to a more efficient setting), I'm not fooling myself to think that individual aggregate lifestyle choices is what it boils down to, that's misleading industry propaganda they've been pushing for decades.

    That propaganda especially doesn't make sense with regards to AI, because its promise as a consumer product is not at all why corporations are funneling resources into its development, they are doing it because they believe it is something they can use for business and give them a more dominant position over society, so it would be done regardless of whether any individual chose to use it. Which isn't to say people using their services aren't contributing at all, doing so gives these companies training and surveillance data. The ethics of it is worth discussing and considering. General purpose "you breathe our air therefore your actions must all be justified by our moral standards regardless of the scale of impact" type arguments are petty and absurd and don't really make for a constructive discussion though.

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