A woman who was juror No. 5 spoke to WBZ-TV's Kristina Rex Tuesday, though she asked to remain anonymous.

"At the end of the day, there was so much doubt," the woman said. "The prosecution didn't have a figurative smoking gun. There was not a single moment throughout the presentation of that case where you could say 'Yup, 100% I'm certain she did it' or that she didn't do it. There was too much gray area."

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[–] 5 points 2 days ago (9 children)

The bar is not 100 percent certainty, its beyond a reasonable doubt I thought.

Is the juror saying there's doubt that's she is involved in the slayings, or that she is guilty of the particular crimes the state is charging her with?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    The doubt is in whether she was in control of herself when she killed the children. They are saying that even with testimony that she was aware of what she was doing, the jury DOUBTED that. They were not convinced that she was sane (enough), and her defense was a lie.

    At this point, she is essentially free, until they decide to prosecute again. If the lone holdout had voted with the jury, at least she would have been locked up in a hospital.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    “At the end of the day, there was so much doubt,” the woman said. “The prosecution didn’t have a figurative smoking gun. There was not a single moment throughout the presentation of that case where you could say ‘Yup, 100% I’m certain she did it’ or that she didn’t do it. There was too much gray area.”

    "At the end of the day, to not follow that reasonable doubt and to acknowledge that it's there, you morally and legally cannot convict somebody for that. And that was therefore a violation of her constitutional rights," the juror said. "Essentially, that is what we were there as a jury to do is to uphold that Constitution and give someone a fair trial of their peers. And I don't necessarily think she was getting that with that juror. It's not simply because of the fact that he had an opposing view or this person felt like she was guilty. It was the inability to back that up with any logic."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (6 children)

    I haven't followed the case that closely, but that statement seems concerning. I was under the impression this was using an affirmative defense. The prosecution didn't have to prove anything other than she wasn't crazy in that exact moment. This stament makes me think the jury instructions were absurdly terrible, or this juror straight up ignored them.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Even her own defense admitted she did it.

    Maybe the doubt was she did it under psychosis? That's a charitable interpretation of the juror's statement.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Maybe the doubt was she did it under psychosis? That’s a charitable interpretation of the juror’s statement.

    That's what I thought, too. TBH, I had to read that article 3 or 4 times before I could make any sense out of it. With a 11-1 hung jury, I just assumed that 11 people thought she was guilty and 1 thought she was innocent. Turns out, it's the opposite! Public opinion had already convicted her, but her defense must've had a great case.

    The juror who spoke to WBZ-TV said at first, she believed Clancy should be found guilty and was criminally responsible for the deaths of her three children.

    "And maybe I still believe that in a certain way. I think that this is a woman who was not mentally healthy. She was someone who was in the throes of a significant mental health crisis," the juror said. "I really just felt like she was so deep in it that she couldn't see her way out."

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    Turns out, it’s the opposite! Public opinion had already convicted her, but her defense must’ve had a great case.

    I've honestly only seen conservative circles completely condemning her. Almost all of the women I've seen talking about this case understood what postpartum psychosis really means.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I’ve been following the case on 9gag - (If you’re not familiar with the site I would NOT recommend a visit) which has been both depressing and eye opening. It’s all pitchforks, gallows and the stake, “WaHMeN tOo EmoTiONaL”… but none of them really seem to understand what the jury were asked.

    But, in 9gaggers defence: if you never leave your basement, are terminally online, hyper misogynistic, obsessed with being of White / European descent, only having online acquaintances and the only FeMaLe you ever see is mommy when she drops off your chicken tendies you’d probably join the groupthink too.

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