▲ 305 ▼ Grandpa still got it (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by ooli3@sopuli.xyz [M] to c/Revenge@sopuli.xyz 191 comments fedilink hide all child comments LOCKED: people are getting too heated over a silly meme go to s/parenting if you want to have a serious conversation about parenting
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -5 points 1 day ago (3 children) Children aren't slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) Cleaning up the dishes from a meal you ate but did not put anything into isn’t being a fucking slave. Do your chores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -10 points 1 day ago (1 child) I simply said "children aren't slaves," and you took that personally. Do your own chores, you chose to make the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Then cook your own food. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Then cook your own food. I do. I buy it, I cook it, and I clean up after myself, no dishwasher. It's difficult because I associate these chores with guilt and punishment because my parents were also authoritarian and abusive. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. You sound unhinged. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves They almost certainly already have a hard life. Stupid, selfish parents don't consider how much pain they're passing along by creating life they can't care for in a society that expects us all to work to death while the planet burns around us. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Neither are parents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Neither are parents. They chose the circumstances, they chose to reproduce. The child did not choose to be born. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Does that mean that a child is absolved of any chores they don't like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 day ago Generally, yes. Children should have autonomy over their own selves. The challenge for parents is to teach children why chores are worth doing and how to do them without feeling like work or punishment. If parents are not up for that challenge, they probably should not have kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Does the kid also say this if it comes to clean up the gear in the sports club? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Does the kid also say this if it comes to clean up the gear in the sports club? Good question. If the child chooses to join a sports club, presumably they are expected to clean the equipment. If they don't like that, they can choose to leave the club or even get kicked out depending on how many times it happens and the club's policies, which are presumably written somewhere. The child did not choose to be born. They have to follow orders under threat of punishment. If they don't like it, they can't legally leave. There is no written contract, parents can set and change expectations arbitrarily. It's a very different situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 child) Cleaning up the dishes from a meal you ate but did not put anything into isn’t being a fucking slave. Do your chores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -10 points 1 day ago (1 child) I simply said "children aren't slaves," and you took that personally. Do your own chores, you chose to make the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Then cook your own food. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Then cook your own food. I do. I buy it, I cook it, and I clean up after myself, no dishwasher. It's difficult because I associate these chores with guilt and punishment because my parents were also authoritarian and abusive. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. You sound unhinged. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves They almost certainly already have a hard life. Stupid, selfish parents don't consider how much pain they're passing along by creating life they can't care for in a society that expects us all to work to death while the planet burns around us. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -10 points 1 day ago (1 child) I simply said "children aren't slaves," and you took that personally. Do your own chores, you chose to make the mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Then cook your own food. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Then cook your own food. I do. I buy it, I cook it, and I clean up after myself, no dishwasher. It's difficult because I associate these chores with guilt and punishment because my parents were also authoritarian and abusive. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. You sound unhinged. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves They almost certainly already have a hard life. Stupid, selfish parents don't consider how much pain they're passing along by creating life they can't care for in a society that expects us all to work to death while the planet burns around us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Then cook your own food. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Then cook your own food. I do. I buy it, I cook it, and I clean up after myself, no dishwasher. It's difficult because I associate these chores with guilt and punishment because my parents were also authoritarian and abusive. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. You sound unhinged. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves They almost certainly already have a hard life. Stupid, selfish parents don't consider how much pain they're passing along by creating life they can't care for in a society that expects us all to work to death while the planet burns around us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Then cook your own food. I do. I buy it, I cook it, and I clean up after myself, no dishwasher. It's difficult because I associate these chores with guilt and punishment because my parents were also authoritarian and abusive. You sound exactly like the spoiled little bitch kids that my friends raise with the same attitude. Worst kids I’ve ever seen. You sound unhinged. They’re gonna have a hard life when they hit adulthood and realize they actually have to do things for themselves They almost certainly already have a hard life. Stupid, selfish parents don't consider how much pain they're passing along by creating life they can't care for in a society that expects us all to work to death while the planet burns around us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Neither are parents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Neither are parents. They chose the circumstances, they chose to reproduce. The child did not choose to be born. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Does that mean that a child is absolved of any chores they don't like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 day ago Generally, yes. Children should have autonomy over their own selves. The challenge for parents is to teach children why chores are worth doing and how to do them without feeling like work or punishment. If parents are not up for that challenge, they probably should not have kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -6 points 1 day ago (1 child) Neither are parents. They chose the circumstances, they chose to reproduce. The child did not choose to be born. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Does that mean that a child is absolved of any chores they don't like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 day ago Generally, yes. Children should have autonomy over their own selves. The challenge for parents is to teach children why chores are worth doing and how to do them without feeling like work or punishment. If parents are not up for that challenge, they probably should not have kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Does that mean that a child is absolved of any chores they don't like? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 day ago Generally, yes. Children should have autonomy over their own selves. The challenge for parents is to teach children why chores are worth doing and how to do them without feeling like work or punishment. If parents are not up for that challenge, they probably should not have kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 day ago Generally, yes. Children should have autonomy over their own selves. The challenge for parents is to teach children why chores are worth doing and how to do them without feeling like work or punishment. If parents are not up for that challenge, they probably should not have kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) Does the kid also say this if it comes to clean up the gear in the sports club? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Does the kid also say this if it comes to clean up the gear in the sports club? Good question. If the child chooses to join a sports club, presumably they are expected to clean the equipment. If they don't like that, they can choose to leave the club or even get kicked out depending on how many times it happens and the club's policies, which are presumably written somewhere. The child did not choose to be born. They have to follow orders under threat of punishment. If they don't like it, they can't legally leave. There is no written contract, parents can set and change expectations arbitrarily. It's a very different situation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago Does the kid also say this if it comes to clean up the gear in the sports club? Good question. If the child chooses to join a sports club, presumably they are expected to clean the equipment. If they don't like that, they can choose to leave the club or even get kicked out depending on how many times it happens and the club's policies, which are presumably written somewhere. The child did not choose to be born. They have to follow orders under threat of punishment. If they don't like it, they can't legally leave. There is no written contract, parents can set and change expectations arbitrarily. It's a very different situation. permalink fedilink source parent