▲ 244 ▼ ‘Supersizing before our eyes’: UN warns of record El Niño approaching (www.theguardian.com) submitted 4 days ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 41 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 134 points 4 days ago* (3 children) It's perplexing to see that in the meantime first world countries are busy with the AI race and accelerating environmental issues. 'don't look up!' permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children) Don't Look Up made so angry when watching it, because all of it was true. Everything the movie shows is true. I couldn't even laugh at the jokes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago Especially the 'wait, we can mine that asteroid' part and then the running away on failure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago And that was just round 1. We're currently in round 2 of stupidity permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children) It's not perplexing. The worst of humanity — the criminals, the psychopaths, the sociopaths, the pedophiles, the corrupt — are all attracted to positions of wealth and power. Ethics and morality are complex/expensive. They can only exist in an environment of abundance. The only thing separating us from cavemen is education; the ability to document and transfer information across generations; the ability to produce excess resources than we need to survive. Self-sacrifice is basically rejecting those baser survival instincts of physical pleasure and worldly possessions for some ephemeral concept of "the greater good". That's what we need right now, but capitalism explicitly rewards the baser instinct of selfishness and greed with wealth and power, so the most greedy and selfish of humanity prevail. It doesn't matter than civilization was built on cooperation or collective effort, or that selfishness and greed are a regressive, unproductive, dead end that will doom us all. Selfishness and greed only need to prevail long enough to destroy the foundations of civilization, like a stable climate and agriculture. Once those are gone, abundance ends, and we're back to focusing on our survival in hourly/daily increments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aqivex@fedinsfw.app 7 points 4 days ago (1 child) Hey! Some of us sociopaths don't give a fuck about titles, position, and power! In times of abundance we just happily feign whatever is in the best interest of being able to happily feign, which usually helps out the tribe and that's why we got to keep making enough babies to pass that along. Ethics and morality are complex/expensive, no doubt about that. Everything you said (except equating all sociopaths with the same angles of sociopathy) is true, no question. Luckily, our selfish drive to get back to the comfy and unassuming does tend to result in...headaches for the other, less integrating members of the worst of humanity class. We're outnumbered though and can't tell precisely when it's time to stop trying to feign along and go dispassionately tear apart the obstacles standing between us quietly living in the metaphorically cave near the village and basking in the sounds of a happy society whose periphery is all we need to get by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 days ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Ah, I see the word perplexing seems to hold different meanings here (not native speaker, but I just looked it up and what I meant is one of the meanings). Just for clarification, it's not a question for me as to why but just like the 'yeah, I know, here we go' kind of situation that is quite hopeless, as in the ending the referenced movie 'don't look up' points to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (1 child) We're crashing out. It's common knowledge at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago If it's common knowledge, asking provocatively, how could you let this happen? (rhetorical, too, because divide & conquer worked really well) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children) Don't Look Up made so angry when watching it, because all of it was true. Everything the movie shows is true. I couldn't even laugh at the jokes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago Especially the 'wait, we can mine that asteroid' part and then the running away on failure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago And that was just round 1. We're currently in round 2 of stupidity permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago Especially the 'wait, we can mine that asteroid' part and then the running away on failure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago And that was just round 1. We're currently in round 2 of stupidity permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children) It's not perplexing. The worst of humanity — the criminals, the psychopaths, the sociopaths, the pedophiles, the corrupt — are all attracted to positions of wealth and power. Ethics and morality are complex/expensive. They can only exist in an environment of abundance. The only thing separating us from cavemen is education; the ability to document and transfer information across generations; the ability to produce excess resources than we need to survive. Self-sacrifice is basically rejecting those baser survival instincts of physical pleasure and worldly possessions for some ephemeral concept of "the greater good". That's what we need right now, but capitalism explicitly rewards the baser instinct of selfishness and greed with wealth and power, so the most greedy and selfish of humanity prevail. It doesn't matter than civilization was built on cooperation or collective effort, or that selfishness and greed are a regressive, unproductive, dead end that will doom us all. Selfishness and greed only need to prevail long enough to destroy the foundations of civilization, like a stable climate and agriculture. Once those are gone, abundance ends, and we're back to focusing on our survival in hourly/daily increments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aqivex@fedinsfw.app 7 points 4 days ago (1 child) Hey! Some of us sociopaths don't give a fuck about titles, position, and power! In times of abundance we just happily feign whatever is in the best interest of being able to happily feign, which usually helps out the tribe and that's why we got to keep making enough babies to pass that along. Ethics and morality are complex/expensive, no doubt about that. Everything you said (except equating all sociopaths with the same angles of sociopathy) is true, no question. Luckily, our selfish drive to get back to the comfy and unassuming does tend to result in...headaches for the other, less integrating members of the worst of humanity class. We're outnumbered though and can't tell precisely when it's time to stop trying to feign along and go dispassionately tear apart the obstacles standing between us quietly living in the metaphorically cave near the village and basking in the sounds of a happy society whose periphery is all we need to get by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 days ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Ah, I see the word perplexing seems to hold different meanings here (not native speaker, but I just looked it up and what I meant is one of the meanings). Just for clarification, it's not a question for me as to why but just like the 'yeah, I know, here we go' kind of situation that is quite hopeless, as in the ending the referenced movie 'don't look up' points to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aqivex@fedinsfw.app 7 points 4 days ago (1 child) Hey! Some of us sociopaths don't give a fuck about titles, position, and power! In times of abundance we just happily feign whatever is in the best interest of being able to happily feign, which usually helps out the tribe and that's why we got to keep making enough babies to pass that along. Ethics and morality are complex/expensive, no doubt about that. Everything you said (except equating all sociopaths with the same angles of sociopathy) is true, no question. Luckily, our selfish drive to get back to the comfy and unassuming does tend to result in...headaches for the other, less integrating members of the worst of humanity class. We're outnumbered though and can't tell precisely when it's time to stop trying to feign along and go dispassionately tear apart the obstacles standing between us quietly living in the metaphorically cave near the village and basking in the sounds of a happy society whose periphery is all we need to get by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 days ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Ah, I see the word perplexing seems to hold different meanings here (not native speaker, but I just looked it up and what I meant is one of the meanings). Just for clarification, it's not a question for me as to why but just like the 'yeah, I know, here we go' kind of situation that is quite hopeless, as in the ending the referenced movie 'don't look up' points to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (1 child) We're crashing out. It's common knowledge at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago If it's common knowledge, asking provocatively, how could you let this happen? (rhetorical, too, because divide & conquer worked really well) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago If it's common knowledge, asking provocatively, how could you let this happen? (rhetorical, too, because divide & conquer worked really well) permalink fedilink source parent