▲ 210 ▼ U.S. Admiral Refuses To Say If He’d Obey Order To Invade Canada (www.readthemaple.com) submitted 1 day ago by NightOwl@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca 95 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (5 children) How is that a lawful order?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 minutes ago Because its a hypothetical where the journalist didnt specify "unlawful order". Its a bs gocha question. There are hypothetical situations where it would be lawful, regardless of how likely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) War isn't actually illegal. I know it feels like it should be, but it really isn't. People say a war is "illegal" because I suppose they feel like it carries more weight than to just say it's "immoral". I guess it's somehow comforting to people to think that somehow some lawyers could prevent countries from going to war somehow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago But there are illegal wars. Iran right now is illegal it wasn't approved by Congress. Trump is basically using legal bullfuckery and a lack of consequences to do that shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago (1 child) How is bombing a wedding a lawful order? The military is trained to be mindless sychophants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 1 point 3 hours ago They weren't ordered to bomb a wedding, they either thought it was something else or they missed another target. They just don't give a shit that they bombed a wedding. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (1 child) It's technically not illegal to invade another country unprovoked. It's illegal to do war crimes though. You can invade a country and annex it without committing warcrimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago I guess if your shit hole country doesn't adhere to international law. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Lawful /= you agree with it, basically. To see why this is definitely within the powers the president has, swap "Canada" for "Vietnam", "Iraq" or "Iran". For more detail, you'd have to refer to the actual laws of war the US government recognises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Sounds like it's high time America was dissolved and balkanized, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) There isn't any nation where the military can just disagree. Even under a military junta, it's only the junta itself that gets a say; everyone lower down must follow orders (even the ones involving atrocities, in that case. The West is weird for exempting something). That said, yeah, America isn't looking so good these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) It never did. It was founded on genocide and slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 minutes ago Because its a hypothetical where the journalist didnt specify "unlawful order". Its a bs gocha question. There are hypothetical situations where it would be lawful, regardless of how likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) War isn't actually illegal. I know it feels like it should be, but it really isn't. People say a war is "illegal" because I suppose they feel like it carries more weight than to just say it's "immoral". I guess it's somehow comforting to people to think that somehow some lawyers could prevent countries from going to war somehow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago But there are illegal wars. Iran right now is illegal it wasn't approved by Congress. Trump is basically using legal bullfuckery and a lack of consequences to do that shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago But there are illegal wars. Iran right now is illegal it wasn't approved by Congress. Trump is basically using legal bullfuckery and a lack of consequences to do that shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago (1 child) How is bombing a wedding a lawful order? The military is trained to be mindless sychophants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 1 point 3 hours ago They weren't ordered to bomb a wedding, they either thought it was something else or they missed another target. They just don't give a shit that they bombed a wedding. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 1 point 3 hours ago They weren't ordered to bomb a wedding, they either thought it was something else or they missed another target. They just don't give a shit that they bombed a wedding. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (1 child) It's technically not illegal to invade another country unprovoked. It's illegal to do war crimes though. You can invade a country and annex it without committing warcrimes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago I guess if your shit hole country doesn't adhere to international law. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago I guess if your shit hole country doesn't adhere to international law. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) Lawful /= you agree with it, basically. To see why this is definitely within the powers the president has, swap "Canada" for "Vietnam", "Iraq" or "Iran". For more detail, you'd have to refer to the actual laws of war the US government recognises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Sounds like it's high time America was dissolved and balkanized, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) There isn't any nation where the military can just disagree. Even under a military junta, it's only the junta itself that gets a say; everyone lower down must follow orders (even the ones involving atrocities, in that case. The West is weird for exempting something). That said, yeah, America isn't looking so good these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) It never did. It was founded on genocide and slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 child) Sounds like it's high time America was dissolved and balkanized, then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) There isn't any nation where the military can just disagree. Even under a military junta, it's only the junta itself that gets a say; everyone lower down must follow orders (even the ones involving atrocities, in that case. The West is weird for exempting something). That said, yeah, America isn't looking so good these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) It never did. It was founded on genocide and slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) There isn't any nation where the military can just disagree. Even under a military junta, it's only the junta itself that gets a say; everyone lower down must follow orders (even the ones involving atrocities, in that case. The West is weird for exempting something). That said, yeah, America isn't looking so good these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) It never did. It was founded on genocide and slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 child) It never did. It was founded on genocide and slavery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 child) Yes, .ml person. I'm sure you believe that. And also that North Korea is better, somehow. 'Nuff said. Edit: Clearly, the user name is ironic, with this much effort to get into a fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) I believe in history, lol? Why are you bringing up North Korea? Is your brain okay? Edit: clearly this person wasn't interested in a conversation at all, based on my instance, lol? permalink fedilink source parent