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[–] 17 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

It's funny because I agree and disagree at the same time. I've had varying levels of "there's way more nuance to this" and "how the fuck is everyone complicating this???" throughout my life and have generally come to the conclusion that it's much more complex than that in that everything is both more nuanced and more simple at the same time because politics really is that stupid.

However, in getting involved in political circles and actually getting to know some legitimate decision makers toward the top, some of these fuckers are way more stupid than we think. Like, alarmingly so. I've had moments where some GOP dumbfuck is doing some evil shit and I'm like "I don't think they're doing this maliciously" and some of my more partisan left-ish friends get all offended think I'm defending them, when really it's so much worse; they're doing it because they're legitimately really fucking stupid... and they're part of world leadership. Don't get me wrong, some of them are both stupid and an asshole, but at the end of the day, people in general tend to get the overall picture of politics wrong because it's way more nuanced in how fucking stupid it is.

One more fun thought for y'all: many of the really dumb legislators I've met in the past predate the current GOP alignment. And you see how much dumber the current GOP is versus the GOP of not even a decade ago? Well...

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  • [–] 3 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

    This is the truth I see as well. I'm around a lot of upper crust events, old money decision maker millionaires. I'm taking pictures so I overhear a lot I probably shouldn't, literally the fly on the wall.

    They are not doing things maliciously on purpose. It's more like what George Carlin said, it's a club and we ain't in it. They are ignorant to what the upper middle-class and below actually do and they really don't care to learn or can't grasp it. They do things based more on their perspectives in an echo chamber. They don't make friends outside that circle.

    Ask them a basic question from highschool science and they will respond with a very wrong answer with absolute confidence. I've met homeless people on the street with more intelligence.

    You have to experience things or work for them to gain any knowledge.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago* (1 child)

    people respond to incentives.

    that's all you need to know.

    take the good and the evil, the smart and the stupid out of it, and it will make a lot more sense.

    most people would be just as 'evil as who you are talking about given they had the same levels of power. you false belief is that these people 'in power' are somehow superhuman and can resist the temptations and abuses that come with the power they have... they can't, and don't, and most folks are like that. it's exceptional when someone doesn't abuse their power.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    Most politicians do evil shit because the system of capitalism compels them to. There is no way to “win” capitalism without being evil. If you aren’t willing to do whatever it takes to win, you will inevitably be eaten by someone who is.

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