▲ 510 ▼ US Fatally Bombs Wedding in Iran, Killing 4, Including Children (truthout.org) submitted 1 day ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 142 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Tja@programming.dev -10 points 1 day ago (3 children) There's a big difference from "we're going to rename French fries" to "we're going to invade Greenland". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Bush did a ton of evil shit… let's not pretend he was just a silly goose permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US? Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don't care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them. Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there's always a war in the middle east. Torturing people? Par for the course in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 hours ago I'd love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn't make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 child) So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don't care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count? I think when you say "most people don't care" you are still just referring to the USA population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 hours ago The question was about "the world abandoning the US". What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 12 points 23 hours ago (3 children) So invading Afghanistan and Iraq was justifiable enough for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 18 hours ago Doesn't matter "to me", I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn't affect the average Joe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone's personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 point 21 hours ago The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions No, it didn't, that's the "knee-jerk" thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and "anti-semitism". permalink fedilink source parent [–] thallamabond@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago Didn't even need to, I walked there fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago It's the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It's always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children) Bush did a ton of evil shit… let's not pretend he was just a silly goose permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US? Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don't care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them. Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there's always a war in the middle east. Torturing people? Par for the course in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 hours ago I'd love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn't make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 child) So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don't care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count? I think when you say "most people don't care" you are still just referring to the USA population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 hours ago The question was about "the world abandoning the US". What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US? Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don't care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them. Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there's always a war in the middle east. Torturing people? Par for the course in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 hours ago I'd love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn't make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 child) So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don't care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count? I think when you say "most people don't care" you are still just referring to the USA population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 hours ago The question was about "the world abandoning the US". What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child) What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 hours ago I'd love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn't make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 hours ago I'd love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn't make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 child) So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don't care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count? I think when you say "most people don't care" you are still just referring to the USA population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 hours ago The question was about "the world abandoning the US". What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 hours ago The question was about "the world abandoning the US". What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 12 points 23 hours ago (3 children) So invading Afghanistan and Iraq was justifiable enough for you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 18 hours ago Doesn't matter "to me", I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn't affect the average Joe. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone's personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 point 21 hours ago The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions No, it didn't, that's the "knee-jerk" thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and "anti-semitism". permalink fedilink source parent [–] thallamabond@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago Didn't even need to, I walked there fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 18 hours ago Doesn't matter "to me", I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn't affect the average Joe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone's personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 point 21 hours ago The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions No, it didn't, that's the "knee-jerk" thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and "anti-semitism". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 child) The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 point 21 hours ago The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions No, it didn't, that's the "knee-jerk" thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and "anti-semitism". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 point 21 hours ago The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions No, it didn't, that's the "knee-jerk" thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and "anti-semitism". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago Didn't even need to, I walked there fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago Didn't even need to, I walked there fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago It's the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It's always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse. permalink fedilink source parent