It's my first time making one of these, is this anything

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[–] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Recognizing fascism is one thing, I think what can bring them further left is the disillusionment when democrats fail to fix what they rightfully identified as such. ICE was created under Georges Bush Jr. Obama could have abolished it, instead it just kept expanding. Biden had a chance to do it too, when their nature, ideology and potential as a fascist militia had already been brought to light by the first Trump administration, yet he didn't, ICE remained active under Biden. The wall that democrats had been so vocally against during Trump's first campaign not only wasn't dismantled but kept being built.

These aren't, to us, the gravest or deepest examples of the democrat's hypocrisy, of course the global imperialisn and the prison industrial system take precedence, and of course, capitalism itself. But to a young naive democrat, these things already part of a background that they take for granted, of which they may criticise specific excesses but aren't ready to question at their root.

Therefore, it is already a good start for more people to identify specific policies as fascist and be against that fascism. They still have a long way to go, and most will probably never go all the way, but everyone must start somewhere.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    the actual fascism in America is not the Trumpian right. It's the neoliberal center, it's the blob, it's 90% of the politicians. Every single one who supports Israel, every single one who supports expanding the military and espionage state. Hyperfixating on Trumpians is a form of Trumpwashing that lets Democrats off the hook for their complicity in the fascist system

    These people aren't, for the most part, "identifying fascism" they are engaged still in partisan team politics where the Democrats are the good guys. They are "identifying red team" and effectively doing election sloganeering for the democrats, that's all. They are not comfortable ever going further.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    the actual fascism in America is not the Trumpian right. It's the neoliberal center, it's the blob, it's 90% of the politicians.

    Yes, and that's why I don't speak of identifying fascists individuals or groups, but fascist policies. Because when people whose political awakening was the realization that massively arresting people for suspicion of irregular situation and deporting them is fascism, that waging genocidal wars for profits is fascism that using racist dogwistles in political speeches is fascism, and that their own country isn't immune to fascism, and then when they see that this fascism is perpetuated under democrats, then those of them who were speaking in good faith when they called out Trump may end up drawing the right conclusions.

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  • [–] [S] 27 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    That's very fair. I wouldn't expect individual action by unorganized individuals to meaningfully resist an actual fascist crackdown, especially in the imperial core with how militarized their police force is.

    The meme is mostly poking fun at the disconnect between "if we lose this election it's joever" and "let us do a tiktok dance in inflatable costumes to defeat fascism".

    I also really wanted to try to draw this face

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