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U.S. Admiral Refuses To Say If He’d Obey Order To Invade Canada (www.readthemaple.com)
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[–] 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If the US tried it Canada would make Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc look like a casual sunday stroll in the park. If the US couldn't handle Guerrilla warfare against people who DON'T look like them, imagine how well they'll do against people that do. And the further north they got the more fucked they'd be. Ever been in a fight with a pissed off Indigenous individual? try it, see how far you get. Not only that you got all the dudes living in the bush with rifles and god knows what else.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago*

    People who look like them, sound like them and know all the same pop culture, including supposedly local stuff like news anchors.

    There's not many shibboleths they could use, and usually they pick a really obvious one. I pledge...

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    And the further north they got the more fucked they’d be

    Doesn't like 90% of Canada's population live within 100 km of the border? Not much reason to even go that far north unfortunately

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    No need to take the minerals, oil and water that are abundant in those northern places?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

    Ehhh. Most of the extraction happens in the south too, because you need workers (edit: and reasonably low shipping costs). Like, Fort Mac is a little further north, but it's still below 60N, in Alberta.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Mining and O&G put together are like 5% of Canada's GDP. All the valuable real estate and I suspect much of the industries other than mining and logging are concentrated in the major cities. You'd get like 90% of the benefits from controlling 10% of the country. Not that I'd expect Trump to realize this. Luckily he seems to be as dumb as he is evil.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    But it's a good portion of our exports. Hairdressers aren't super relevant for an occupying force.

    Although, resource extraction wouldn't be the point of this war. There's lots of much softer, easier to propagandise about targets out there, if they just wanted an encore of colonialism.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Hairdressers aren't super relevant for an occupying force.

    That's fair. But I'm pretty sure most of the manufacturing is still near where the population is since workers are needed. And if they decide to go full settler mode, all the urban areas will be free to occupy if Canadians are out in the forests defending the homeland.

    But tbf, it is Trump we're talking about. He would probably want the oil more than anything, even if there's so much else that would be much easier to take.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

    The plan is to follow the Taliban's example, it sounds like, so there'd be both rural and urban activity reinforcing each other, and the point would be to make properly occupying all cities at once fairly impossible.

    Trump's main motive seems to improvement of the US's size and border shape on a map. Probably, Like in Afghanistan, resources are besides the point. Although he's not going to say no if he can manage it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    I don't think it would be nearly as difficult as Vietnam. Vietnam had direct military aid from China coming over the land border, whereas the united States had to stretch their logistics halfway around the world.

    If the U.S. hadn't used up our missile and artillery supplies in Iran and Ukraine, I think the majority of the Canadian military and government could be taken out all at once.

    Obviously attacking a friendly neighbor is a villainous thing to do, but I don't think the Vietnam comparison is apt.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago

    Taking out bases with missiles is different than invading and dealing with guerilla warfare tactics and a bunch of really angry citizens who have guns...we just don't talk about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, maybe Europe would help, and the other commonwealth countries would have an awkward time not helping at all, particularly the UK. But, there's an ocean in the way. Nobody can just hop on the Hoser Chi Minh trail and cross into ice Laos.

    On the other hand, you absolutely could walk accross into America itself and mess things up. Honestly, that might be even better.

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  • [–] 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 child)

    Vietnam has a total area of approximately 331,344 square kilometers (127,933 square miles)

    The total area of British Columbia is 944,735 square kilometers (364,764 square miles).

    Canada has a total area of approximately 9,984,670 square kilometres (3,855,100 square miles)

    Stretching your logistics is an entirely different challenge than spreading your logistics out.

    The USA built up many bases in South Vietnam to launch the invasion. So it's not like they were operating on a major handicap.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child)

    They don't need to capture empty land. They need capital cities and a few other strategic points.

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