House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and his leadership team announced they are eyeing punishment for two House Democrats who bucked their party Tuesday.

Reps. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Jared Golden of Maine broke with leadership to advance a key procedural vote that revived Republicans’ legislative agenda. The incredibly rare crossing of party lines incensed many House Democrats and top leaders who were then forced to vote on a slate of GOP priorities.

“The decision by two of our colleagues to blindside the entire House Democratic Caucus and join with the Republican majority to pass a procedural rule on the brink of failing represents a significant breach of trust,” Jeffries said in a statement with Whip Katherine Clark of Massachusetts and Pete Aguilar of California. “It is an action that necessitates a serious response, and we have asked the Committee on Caucus Rules to take this up in short order.”

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[–] 34 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

DEMOCRATS ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

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  • [+] -6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    This is simply a conspiracy theory that falls apart if you think for even a second. Do you think corporations would spend billions to influence elections if the results didn't matter?

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  • [–] 21 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    They do spend billions on both parties. It's called corporate wealthfare, they get the money back in the end afterall

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  • [+] -24 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    It makes no sense to spend on both parties. They would get more corporate welfare if they spent for Republicans every time.

    And why would Democrats participate in such a conspiracy willingly? You really believe that none of them would spill the beans? It's just not realistic.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    What do you mean spill the beans, it's all public on who receives pac funding and which ones. There is no beans to spill you can just look it up on opensecrets.org.

    Democrats like Jeffries and Schumer are prime examples of Democrats on a leash held by Israel's Netanyahu. Hell, most of the Republicans seem compromised and don't even get started on the odd connections with Epstein and the president

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  • [+] -6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I mean spilling the beans about it all being a big conspiracy where both the Dems and GOP are working together.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    The only ones I see working together are the GOP actively voting to strip you of your rights

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    That's kind of my point? They aren't cooperating with Dems in some conspiracy

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Back to your original point then, you asked why would a Democrat do this if this is a genuine question and not just a troll or bot. The reasons can range from simple Greed, corruption, compromised by blackmail for info they want kept secret I.E the Epstein files

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Occhams razor. Is it a simpler explanation that Democrats are not a controlled opposition, or they are a controlled opposition but hundreds of members each were bribed or blackmailed into absolute silence for the rest of their lives by a shadowy cabal that rules the country?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Does that really sound that far fetched when you think of the secrecy around the Epstein files?

    In recent votes it's always the same handful of dems voting with Republicans. Usually the Blue Dog coalition dems, a democratic group who's stated purpose is to serve Israel for some reason. Does that not sound like a compromised individual by a foreign nation?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    What sounds far fetched is that nobody has told. There were plenty of people who tried to tell about Epstein. There are thousands of pages of evidence. There is zero evidence of a conspiracy for the Dems to be a controlled opposition. There are zero whistle lowers. Zero leaked emails. It's just not real.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    There is literally proof they do spend it on both parties. Why the fuck wouldn't they?

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  • [+] -6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Because Republicans almost universally lower taxes on the wealthy when they get in power and Democrats almost universally raise taxes when they get in power.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Disclaimer: not an American.

    It's necessary political theater. Republicans are the bad cops whilst Democrats are the good cops. Citizens tend to align to whichever party supports their personal philosophy - broadly, either working together or preventing, punishing, and purging the "bad" elements of society, both for a promised better future. Both are still cops, though, and receive their funding from the same types of interests. Sometimes the same donors. They're largely on the same team.

    This keeps the majority trapped in the political sports arena, thinking things will improve if only their party can finally get their way... but they just keep getting thwarted by those pesky Demonrats/Rethuglicans! They only need to keep voting blue no matter who or red even if brain dead and support harder while compromising more, then it'll get better next term! The Democrats have been oddly inept for decades and the Republicans actively hostile toward their own constituents, but what's the alternative? Voting third party? Criticizing their politicians? Hah! That's handing the election to the other team, right? Right? They must hold the line!

    So whichever party wins the majority throws their voters a bone or two, otherwise ignores their campaign promises whilst blaming the other party for it, and further erodes the overall rights of the American public, often strengthening the very rights eroding policy they earlier decried, á la Obama extending elements of the Patriot Act then signing the USA Freedom Act that furthered its aims.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    This keeps the majority trapped in the political sports arena, thinking things will improve if only their party can finally get their way

    Republicans took full control and their voters ARE getting their way. They were just too stupid to realize the consequences of what they were asking.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago*

    I'd argue they're getting more than they voted for. I'm certain few of them wanted the increases in living costs and decrease in quality of life associated with the Trump administration. Otherwise, Trump wouldn't keep trying to distract and displace the blame.

    Just like Democrats, they voted for the promises their candidates loudly and publicly made, and either ignored, were never aware, or severely misunderstood the effects of their politicians' past actions and what would come from their future actions. To be fair, it's vastly easier to hoodwink American conservatives. They're quite dim.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    You know the adage about a frog not jumping out of the cook pot if the temperature increases slowly? Imagine the wealthy as the chef. Republicans are the heat. Democrats hold the temperature steady.

    Whenever the heat gets too high, we vote for Democrats instead of jumping at the chef. The chef has made sure the Democrats don't have an ice bucket or anything like that, instead they have a bucket of water just slightly cooler than the current temperature.

    Every time, a vote for Dems is just a sign the temperature is going up too fast so the chef backs off a bit and rages about how the slightly cooler water will ruin dinner while salivating about how tenderly we are cooking ourselves.

    IMO, the DSA is a bucket of ice. I'm not sure ice is better than the boiling water for our longevity, but they represent a rapid temperature shift in the right direction. Once things get cooled off, we can figure out how far we want to go. That's all on a younger generation because just that is probably going to take the rest of my natural life to achieve.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Or maybe that's the flaw of the 2 party system that can only be solved by forming a coalition of anti establishment DNC like the democratic socialist movement.

    Maybe then there's a chance we can get ranked choice voting but not if the same leeches currently in power remain or the progressive movement only barely eeks out a win is a guaranteed failure of the people of the united states.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Like the other person said, but also there are real differences between the two party establishments; those differences are just narrower than they'd like you to believe.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I can agree with that, but it is a very different thing than saying there is controlled opposition.

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