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The Creator of Git and Linux (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 113 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

I love how just...normal...Linus is. Like...humble. Content.

Like, hey, I revolutionized the world with a pet project. Nbd.

When I was a kid I worshipped Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. I'm glad I realized later that Linus and Woz are the real heroes.

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  • [–] 7 points 43 minutes ago

    Gates was a jerk. Jobs was a jerk that actually did make some positive impact on the world. Linus was a jerk who's mellowed to a pretty normal state. Woz is a fucking tech Angel/God who just generally wants good things for people.

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  • [–] 3 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

    My local Microcenter has posters of notable computer pioneers up high in the back where you can see them from anywhere in the store. Each poster has the person's name as well as a description of something they're most known for. Bill Gates is there as well as Ken Thompson, Robert Kahn, Robert Metcalfe, Grace Hopper, Richard Stallman, etc. I always thought that was a nice touch. Even though it's like the nerdiest of all stores, I suspect 90% of customers are probably Windows normies and just need a computer for work or to play games and wouldn't recognize any of them with the exception of Gates. Even I don't recognize some of the names, like Kahn (co-invented TCP/IP) and Metcalfe (inventor of Ethernet).

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  • [–] 47 points 2 hours ago (7 children)

    Never meet your heroes. Have you ever seen the way he rages at people on the mailing list? Don't get me wrong, he's made some incredible technical contributions that I'm thankful for, but I have to push back against claims that he is a well-adjusted dude.

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  • [–] 8 points 56 minutes ago

    the way he rages at people on the mailing list?

    not really anymore for quite a while.

    he will absolutely tell someone that should know better, if they are doing a bad job, but the times of random shitstorms is over for quite a while now

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  • [–] 41 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    He's had to adjust quite a bit I'd say he's thoroughly and well adjusted.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, Linus today is nothing like Linus in the 90s/00s

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  • [–] 7 points 56 minutes ago (1 child)

    You also have to remember that he made an OS as a hobby project and suddenly everyone wanted to mess with it. It was the Wild West of decentralized project management in those days, I don’t condone any of that unprofessional behavior but I’m also not in the least bit fucking surprised that he had very personal rage-out moments as unsolicited criticism poured in from around the world, constructive and well intentioned or not. That’s a lot of unexpected pressure.

    He got better, which implies to me that he wants to be a good person; and that’s all we can really ask of anyone.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 minutes ago

    True that. Andrew Tanenbaum dissing on Linux in the early days just because it didn't conform to his ideals of a microkernel is sufficiently uncomfortable to read, imo. It's not like Linus kept anyone from making their own open source kernel.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Not to protect so called "toxic environment", but sometimes people need to hear what others think about them and their work, preferably without pink glasses. Hiding truth behind fake polite smile is not correct approach either.

    As an example, Linus once harshly commented about breaking user space. Was it impolite to mog developer? Maybe. But nowadays in our "polite circle with pink ponies" people more easily do what they not supposed to, cause there no harsh feedback. My amdgpu crashing and taking full video stack with it each focking time. It can't restart even if you trigger /sys/kernel/debug, like, it's dead-dead. And that due to user space program, aka game. This shit should't happen and yet here we are. Could it be different if Linus kept yelling at people, to reinforce fear of breaking stuff? My money on "yes". There other examples of course, like compete disaster called "Concord", where ultra polite environment became so forced that it kinda became toxic thing on itself and we all know the end result of it.

    So yea, not a fan of that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    There other examples of course, like compete disaster called β€œConcord”

    Which one is that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago* (1 child)

    If it's any consolation I also worshipped Carmack and Zoid Kirsch (credited then by deadname)....

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  • [–] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    What's wrong with Carmack? I'm genuinely curious.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    I think his joining Meta to work on VR was... an interesting decision.

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