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Linus Torvalds used AI to fix a Linux bug, and now LLM critics on Linux face an uncomfortable choice (www.xda-developers.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/74818680

https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2026/08/msg00041.html

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[–] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But the art field is making final products that have no formal correctness. The programming field is making infrastructure that never gets seen by end users, and we do have formal verification. Two completely different things.

The skill collapse already happened after the 90s which is why all the software is so shit right now. Now the competent people can take over again and rewrite everything in immutable functional languages with complete unit test coverage and viral copyleft licenses.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Great, so why has that not happened?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Cause the models have only been reliable for like 6 months, and only cheap for the past two weeks

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I work with frontier models every day that I participate in gainful employment activities, and I don't think I would call them reliable. Definitely not reliable enough to design complicated software correctly on a language there's relatively little training data on.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    They struggle with design because they can't tell a good idea from a bad idea without writing a comparative essay first. You can still make it work as long as no more than a third of your sessions are about implementation. Everything else should be about exploration and planning. The human drives the design.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    To be honest with you, that sounds like more effort than just making it yourself for the most part.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    It's an equal amount of effort but 10 to 100 times more productive so I actually have time to add unit tests and error recovery strategies before the managers come asking questions.

    I guess if your company isn't totally dysfunctional it's not as helpful but I've never even heard of a corporate dev environment not ran by idiot PMs

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