I actually disagree with a lot of people here.

If you allow llm to infect code, you will have no programmers that can code once your pre-ai ones (like linus) phase out.

It's not really ai that is the problem but the skills it eliminates. You can't properly fix bad ai code if you don't do code without ai, you will not gain the experience of decades of manually coding properly.

The most experienced coders that exist today are the equivalent of artisanal stone carvers and wood workers who built some of the most beautiful buildings that exist of older times. Modern construction methods phased them out and now the number of people with their skill is tiny worldwide compared to thousands of them in every country in the past.

The tech industry is going to eat itself and won't realise until it's too late.

I can't wait for no one to know how any of our software works in ten years, why it's so bloated, or why it breaks all the time.

I really dislike how everything this man says or does is interpreted like it is instruction from god.

If Linus torvalds jumped off a bridge, half the Linux nerds would line up to do the same.

I've been in software for nearly two decades. The industry has fundamentally changed with the advent of language model tools. I don't like it, but Pandora's box is wide open and I want to understand what the path forward is.

I don't write code for work anymore, I babysit a language model. Maintaining a sense of code ownership and comprehension is a real risk, and we are pushed to use tools that turn our brains into pudding.

Is this what the old timers thought when fancy pants compilers showed up? The reason I disagree with this analogy is that the new tooling is fundamentally incompatible with software freedom that cannot be solved with gcc et al. I can't afford a $10k computer to run local models.

this year 1 CS student used her brain to fix a Linux bug, and now thinking critics on Linux face an uncomfortable choice

I don't think it changes much of anything if linux doesn't crash, Linus already said he will allow llm based code if it has been fully reviewed and he already said he considers it a neutral tool which is good in some instances, the fact he used it for troubleshooting isn't that surprising or groundbreaking tbh from what was already public knowledge.

I don't really care that much about whether the code I use has been made with LLMs. I don't like working with LLMs and I don't like working with people who heavily rely on LLMs. And since this is a matter of me volunteering my time it's an easy decision to distance myself from projects with an everything goes LLM policy.

the linux kernel is compromised? install openbsd immediately?

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Alright everybody! It was a good run. This time let's account for the Y2K issue from the start, and I'm thinking we try trinary again, I think we can do it this time.