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[–] 9 points 22 hours ago* (3 children)

You can't really "change someone's mind" unless they're receptive to it. Quite often you'll just end up in a situation where both parties are already hard set into their position; then they both enthusiastically repeat their best arguments and logic, while completely ignoring what the other person is saying. The hope is that there's a magic combination of words that will trigger the incantation that changes the opposition's mind. There usually isn't.

As a thought experiment, if you wouldn't be willing to "change teams" no matter what the other person says, they probably feel the same way towards you.

I have a family member who is an avid Pauline Hanson / Trump supporter; despite my reminders that those people hate me for who I am at a fundamental level and would see me suppressed, deported, begging on the streets, or worse. I'm "one of the good ones" you see, an exemption to patch over the cognitive dissonance. I would never support them, because it would be literal suicide to do so. I'm sure they have similarly strong opinions about my favourite progressive political parties.

That said, I don't have a good actual solution, and at least arguing about things raises visibility and could sway undecided third parties. But at a certain point it becomes too exhausting to continue arguing all the time.

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  • [–] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    I just read up on Hansen and she is concerning. My argument is look at Trump: he hasn't done anything to trans people yet. The law still protects trans rights. Maybe that's why your family is not worried

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    My argument is look at Trump: he hasn’t done anything to trans people yet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14183

    Executive Order 14183, titled "Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness", is an executive order issued by President Donald Trump on January 27, 2025, banning transgender people from military service.

    Sure, he has been side tracked into other heinous shit since then but kicking them out of the military was one of the first things he did in office.

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