▲ 256 ▼ Park benches don't "open" until 10am (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago by monketman82@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/59306211
[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (3 children) Anti-homeless architecture is fine as long as they’re actually providing them a place to sleep. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Eq0@literature.cafe 34 points 1 day ago (1 child) I posit that this is not anti-homeless. It’s anti-human. Why wouldn’t a party goer be able to sit at 2am after the party? And early riser at 6am? Someone that missed the last bus taking a nap? Someone else with mobility problems? This arbitrary line makes life worse for anyone passing by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 8 points 17 hours ago Honestly I'm sick to death of this country acting like it's the 30s and no one has any business being out at night. There's businesses open 24/7! Let the night people have a life too! permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago (1 child) What are the odds a place this hostile to homeless people has more than free bus tickets out of state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -3 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Most places have more support options than you think. The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs, or unwillingness to follow the rules of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 child) Back when I was following my local city subreddit every few months there would be a "I'm about to be homeless what do I do" post. They were provided with all the city and county resources and every single time the OP would try those and get absolutely no help. The system was either full, out of resources, or the OP wasn't poor enough since federal poverty guidelines haven't been updated in forever. There's virtually no help and what's there is at its breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 5 hours ago Your example shows that people are often unaware of the resources available to them. Whether or not the resources are at capacity will vary by location but doesn't change the fact that public outreach is often very lacking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children) The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs You think homeless people don't know about homeless programs? Talking to a housing coordinator a few months ago, she said the problem was that there were no beds available and all she could offer was to put people on years-long waitlists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child) yeah this seems a bit naive. like deflect in your head so you don't feel bad naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 18 hours ago (1 child) My wife worked in addiction counseling, so she dealt with a lot of homeless people. No, many people are unaware of all of the help that's available for those who need it. A large part of her day to day was connecting people with the non-addiction related support services they were unaware of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago *with a good place to sleep. Given the state of a lot of homeless shelters, you're probably better off taking your chances on the street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 34 points 1 day ago (1 child) I posit that this is not anti-homeless. It’s anti-human. Why wouldn’t a party goer be able to sit at 2am after the party? And early riser at 6am? Someone that missed the last bus taking a nap? Someone else with mobility problems? This arbitrary line makes life worse for anyone passing by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 8 points 17 hours ago Honestly I'm sick to death of this country acting like it's the 30s and no one has any business being out at night. There's businesses open 24/7! Let the night people have a life too! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 8 points 17 hours ago Honestly I'm sick to death of this country acting like it's the 30s and no one has any business being out at night. There's businesses open 24/7! Let the night people have a life too! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago (1 child) What are the odds a place this hostile to homeless people has more than free bus tickets out of state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -3 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Most places have more support options than you think. The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs, or unwillingness to follow the rules of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 child) Back when I was following my local city subreddit every few months there would be a "I'm about to be homeless what do I do" post. They were provided with all the city and county resources and every single time the OP would try those and get absolutely no help. The system was either full, out of resources, or the OP wasn't poor enough since federal poverty guidelines haven't been updated in forever. There's virtually no help and what's there is at its breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 5 hours ago Your example shows that people are often unaware of the resources available to them. Whether or not the resources are at capacity will vary by location but doesn't change the fact that public outreach is often very lacking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children) The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs You think homeless people don't know about homeless programs? Talking to a housing coordinator a few months ago, she said the problem was that there were no beds available and all she could offer was to put people on years-long waitlists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child) yeah this seems a bit naive. like deflect in your head so you don't feel bad naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 18 hours ago (1 child) My wife worked in addiction counseling, so she dealt with a lot of homeless people. No, many people are unaware of all of the help that's available for those who need it. A large part of her day to day was connecting people with the non-addiction related support services they were unaware of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -3 points 21 hours ago (2 children) Most places have more support options than you think. The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs, or unwillingness to follow the rules of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 child) Back when I was following my local city subreddit every few months there would be a "I'm about to be homeless what do I do" post. They were provided with all the city and county resources and every single time the OP would try those and get absolutely no help. The system was either full, out of resources, or the OP wasn't poor enough since federal poverty guidelines haven't been updated in forever. There's virtually no help and what's there is at its breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 5 hours ago Your example shows that people are often unaware of the resources available to them. Whether or not the resources are at capacity will vary by location but doesn't change the fact that public outreach is often very lacking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children) The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs You think homeless people don't know about homeless programs? Talking to a housing coordinator a few months ago, she said the problem was that there were no beds available and all she could offer was to put people on years-long waitlists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child) yeah this seems a bit naive. like deflect in your head so you don't feel bad naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 18 hours ago (1 child) My wife worked in addiction counseling, so she dealt with a lot of homeless people. No, many people are unaware of all of the help that's available for those who need it. A large part of her day to day was connecting people with the non-addiction related support services they were unaware of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 child) Back when I was following my local city subreddit every few months there would be a "I'm about to be homeless what do I do" post. They were provided with all the city and county resources and every single time the OP would try those and get absolutely no help. The system was either full, out of resources, or the OP wasn't poor enough since federal poverty guidelines haven't been updated in forever. There's virtually no help and what's there is at its breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 5 hours ago Your example shows that people are often unaware of the resources available to them. Whether or not the resources are at capacity will vary by location but doesn't change the fact that public outreach is often very lacking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 5 hours ago Your example shows that people are often unaware of the resources available to them. Whether or not the resources are at capacity will vary by location but doesn't change the fact that public outreach is often very lacking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children) The problem is often lack of knowledge of these programs You think homeless people don't know about homeless programs? Talking to a housing coordinator a few months ago, she said the problem was that there were no beds available and all she could offer was to put people on years-long waitlists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child) yeah this seems a bit naive. like deflect in your head so you don't feel bad naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 18 hours ago (1 child) My wife worked in addiction counseling, so she dealt with a lot of homeless people. No, many people are unaware of all of the help that's available for those who need it. A large part of her day to day was connecting people with the non-addiction related support services they were unaware of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child) yeah this seems a bit naive. like deflect in your head so you don't feel bad naive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago Just World Fallacy in action. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 18 hours ago (1 child) My wife worked in addiction counseling, so she dealt with a lot of homeless people. No, many people are unaware of all of the help that's available for those who need it. A large part of her day to day was connecting people with the non-addiction related support services they were unaware of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child) "Support services" are not housing. And, yes, there are a lot of "support services" out there, the support largely being someone to talk to as part of society's employment system for white women. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) In what world is housing not a support service? Also, what the actual fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago *with a good place to sleep. Given the state of a lot of homeless shelters, you're probably better off taking your chances on the street. permalink fedilink source parent