▲ 247 ▼ It must suck for legitimate high quality Chinese artisans to be associated with the "made in China" stigma. (jlai.lu) submitted 3 days ago by oce@jlai.lu to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 80 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 child) China is already there. Republicans are working to get us there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Is China there? I know that Conservatives like to say that it is, but Republicans always lie. Ive got friends who came from China, they disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) They have to. If China hears them talking shit, they'll hunt them down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) If China hears them talking shit...in my house... Do you think Chinese spies are listening at the windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Secret police and propaganda: The Chinese agents spying on expats in US 16 May 2026 - bbc.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreksob@feddit.online -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Is China there? I know that Conservatives like to say that it is, but Republicans always lie. Ive got friends who came from China, they disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) They have to. If China hears them talking shit, they'll hunt them down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) If China hears them talking shit...in my house... Do you think Chinese spies are listening at the windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Secret police and propaganda: The Chinese agents spying on expats in US 16 May 2026 - bbc.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) They have to. If China hears them talking shit, they'll hunt them down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) If China hears them talking shit...in my house... Do you think Chinese spies are listening at the windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Secret police and propaganda: The Chinese agents spying on expats in US 16 May 2026 - bbc.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreksob@feddit.online 3 points 3 days ago (1 child) If China hears them talking shit...in my house... Do you think Chinese spies are listening at the windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Secret police and propaganda: The Chinese agents spying on expats in US 16 May 2026 - bbc.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 child) Secret police and propaganda: The Chinese agents spying on expats in US 16 May 2026 - bbc.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreksob@feddit.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) So on one hand, I have propagandists who I know have been lying to me for years. On the other hand I have friends over to my house who occasionally talk about China, and say that while its not particularly amazing, its really not much worse than growing up poor and black in America (and we live in areas of America that aren't batshit). I don't think China is some bastion of democracy, but I am increasingly skeptical when Capitalists tell me how awful China is supposed to be...and by "Awful" they mean that China might do the same shit that America does, except they actually arrest government officials who are too corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, if you don't do any political activism, and you don't say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don't end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn't have "the weekend" as a concept. And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreksob@feddit.online 1 point 2 days ago Yeah, if you don’t do any political activism, and you don’t say things that are unapproved too loudly, and you don’t end up at one of those slave labor (BYD) or corpo plants with the suicide netting, then you can certainly get by with the way things are. Is this America or is this propaganda about what China is supposed to be like? But political activism and freedom of speech and the bill of rights is also how we make things better. Without those, and without people who fought for those, we wouldn’t have “the weekend” as a concept. China also has the concept of the weekend... And with how much efficiency has risen over the last hundred years, we should be able to do better than just the weekend. But we live under capitalism, so the most likely result is that the weekend is going to only be for those born wealthy. permalink fedilink source parent