β² 250 βΌ Just One Problem | Poorly Drawn Lines (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago by new_otters_raft@piefed.ca to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 20 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source: https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/just-one-problem/
[β] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (3 children) I'll be that guy: without atmosphere, there is no flight. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] binarytobis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* βThere are actually a lot of problems with it.β - Moon Flamingo permalink fedilink source parent [β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children) I'll be the other guy: even if they could fly, the escape velocity of the moon is still 2380m/s, more than 25Γ faster than the fastest bird flight permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 child) Probably a dumb question, but here it goes- Escape velocity is the velocity needed to escape the moon/planet's gravity without any further propulsion, right? A stone thrown upwards would slowly lose its velocity and then start falling back because there's no engine to keep it going. But an "ideal spherical bird" could keep going at a constant velocity of 20m/s to escape whatever planet it wants to leave, right? Does the escape velocity really matter here? (Assuming that all other issues like lack of air are ignored) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 child) technically yes, the issue is eventually you run out of atmosphere to push off of to maintain that speed, and if you don't have enough momentum at that point to take you the rest of the way, then you'll fall back down. but I suppose if we're already assuming that they can fly without atmosphere, then that doesn't matter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [β] ladicius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (2 children) African or european? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) What? I don't know that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago AAAAaaaaaaaaahhhh.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Do they swallow? permalink fedilink source parent [β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children) maybe there is atmosphere. if there can be bird-space-costumes, perhaps we can believe in dreams permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago But they have helmets on. Let's say they are in the process of terraforming and haven't gotten to oxygen yet. permalink fedilink source parent [β] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) If there is an atmosphere, why are they wearing space suits? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Can be a very thin atmosphere, incapable of providing enough pressure for you to breathe in, but enough for lift, especially with decreased gravity. Or it could be a toxic atmosphere, perfectly cromulent for flying in but you would die if you breathed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 day ago yh is mustard gas permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) A thin atmosphere provides less lift, and I thought of the toxic atmosphere after I hit post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Just because its an atmosphere doesnt mean its hospitable to earth based life. permalink fedilink source parent [β] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago Been to mars lately? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] binarytobis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* βThere are actually a lot of problems with it.β - Moon Flamingo permalink fedilink source parent
[β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children) I'll be the other guy: even if they could fly, the escape velocity of the moon is still 2380m/s, more than 25Γ faster than the fastest bird flight permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 child) Probably a dumb question, but here it goes- Escape velocity is the velocity needed to escape the moon/planet's gravity without any further propulsion, right? A stone thrown upwards would slowly lose its velocity and then start falling back because there's no engine to keep it going. But an "ideal spherical bird" could keep going at a constant velocity of 20m/s to escape whatever planet it wants to leave, right? Does the escape velocity really matter here? (Assuming that all other issues like lack of air are ignored) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 child) technically yes, the issue is eventually you run out of atmosphere to push off of to maintain that speed, and if you don't have enough momentum at that point to take you the rest of the way, then you'll fall back down. but I suppose if we're already assuming that they can fly without atmosphere, then that doesn't matter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent [β] ladicius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (2 children) African or european? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) What? I don't know that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago AAAAaaaaaaaaahhhh.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Do they swallow? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 child) Probably a dumb question, but here it goes- Escape velocity is the velocity needed to escape the moon/planet's gravity without any further propulsion, right? A stone thrown upwards would slowly lose its velocity and then start falling back because there's no engine to keep it going. But an "ideal spherical bird" could keep going at a constant velocity of 20m/s to escape whatever planet it wants to leave, right? Does the escape velocity really matter here? (Assuming that all other issues like lack of air are ignored) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 child) technically yes, the issue is eventually you run out of atmosphere to push off of to maintain that speed, and if you don't have enough momentum at that point to take you the rest of the way, then you'll fall back down. but I suppose if we're already assuming that they can fly without atmosphere, then that doesn't matter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 child) technically yes, the issue is eventually you run out of atmosphere to push off of to maintain that speed, and if you don't have enough momentum at that point to take you the rest of the way, then you'll fall back down. but I suppose if we're already assuming that they can fly without atmosphere, then that doesn't matter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ladicius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (2 children) African or european? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) What? I don't know that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago AAAAaaaaaaaaahhhh.... permalink fedilink source parent [β] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago Do they swallow? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) What? I don't know that! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago AAAAaaaaaaaaahhhh.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago AAAAaaaaaaaaahhhh.... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children) maybe there is atmosphere. if there can be bird-space-costumes, perhaps we can believe in dreams permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago But they have helmets on. Let's say they are in the process of terraforming and haven't gotten to oxygen yet. permalink fedilink source parent [β] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) If there is an atmosphere, why are they wearing space suits? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Can be a very thin atmosphere, incapable of providing enough pressure for you to breathe in, but enough for lift, especially with decreased gravity. Or it could be a toxic atmosphere, perfectly cromulent for flying in but you would die if you breathed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 day ago yh is mustard gas permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) A thin atmosphere provides less lift, and I thought of the toxic atmosphere after I hit post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Just because its an atmosphere doesnt mean its hospitable to earth based life. permalink fedilink source parent [β] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago Been to mars lately? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago But they have helmets on. Let's say they are in the process of terraforming and haven't gotten to oxygen yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children) If there is an atmosphere, why are they wearing space suits? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Can be a very thin atmosphere, incapable of providing enough pressure for you to breathe in, but enough for lift, especially with decreased gravity. Or it could be a toxic atmosphere, perfectly cromulent for flying in but you would die if you breathed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 day ago yh is mustard gas permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) A thin atmosphere provides less lift, and I thought of the toxic atmosphere after I hit post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Just because its an atmosphere doesnt mean its hospitable to earth based life. permalink fedilink source parent [β] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago Been to mars lately? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Can be a very thin atmosphere, incapable of providing enough pressure for you to breathe in, but enough for lift, especially with decreased gravity. Or it could be a toxic atmosphere, perfectly cromulent for flying in but you would die if you breathed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 day ago yh is mustard gas permalink fedilink source parent [β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) A thin atmosphere provides less lift, and I thought of the toxic atmosphere after I hit post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 day ago yh is mustard gas permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child) A thin atmosphere provides less lift, and I thought of the toxic atmosphere after I hit post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tyler@programming.dev 1 point 6 hours ago Yes I know a thin atmosphere provides less lift, which is why I mentioned decreased gravity. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Just because its an atmosphere doesnt mean its hospitable to earth based life. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago Been to mars lately? permalink fedilink source parent