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We just hit 1.5 C above per-industrial levels for the first time. (www.abc.net.au)
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[–] 155 points 3 years ago (36 children)

We had a good run. Good luck to the next species to dominate the earth. May you avoid religious dogma, find an economic system that respects your natural environment, and a political system that respects the right to live a clean and healthy world.

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  • [–] 57 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Mosquitos are like “that species was delicious. I wonder what the next one will taste like”

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    we probably taste like shit.. they sit around the campfire and remember the good old days of fresh, free range Dino blood as far as the proboscis could poke.. not this Walmart meat they get now..

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  • [+] 37 points 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (22 children)
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  • [–] 68 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    We created a lot of value for the shareholders.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    @Gsicht @Sterile_Technique And “pragmatic” solutions to the climate crisis. Oh wait …!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I mean, we left the planet. We created art. We did some good, and life will diversify again after we're gone.

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  • [+] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    they might just carry on until this planet is molten

    The odds of true runaway warming are very low, the planet has both been much hotter and had much higher CO2 levels in the past. The Holocene is actually a cool period, geologically.

    We're just going to make it too hot to grow enough crops to feed the world.

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  • [+] [B] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    The lake Toba Eruption caused a 4°C drop in global temperatures, covered asia in inches to feet of ash, and may have taken the climate 1000s of years to recover.

    Even more extreme, the lava floods that created the Siberian Traps 250 million years ago raised ocean temps to 40°C, killed off 90% of all life, and might have taken millions of years to recover.

    We are tiny. The climate and the Earth are formidable. Sure, we might have the capacity to destroy all multicellular life on earth, but she's recovered from even worse.

    We shouldn't ever give up, but I think the earth is capable of handling even our worst fuck-ups.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    it seems pretty likely that microprocessors will survive us, and give a BIG jump start to any species that follows. literacy seems to be a longer shot, but still a possible stepping stone for some other organism to take over our work. my money is on fungi to figure out microprocessors. if not them, then plants, especially "weeds". finally, ocean mammals might be able to work some of the junk we've made and cargo-cult themselves into the information age.

    i really am hopeful for life on earth to survive the death of Sol.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    we did just waste a good few million years of evolution though (let's say 65 million accounting for the rise of mammals). earth isn't going to be habitable forever, from memory there's less than a billion years left before the temp would increase with the expanding sun enough to make liquid water impossible. feels like we kind of shot earth in the foot a bit here

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    There were a couple of hundred thousand years of humans managing not to fuck up the entire planet, before the two centuries of doing so for the sake of money.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Realistically, extinction would be sweet relief compared to what is actually in store for humans with climate change. More likely that we hang around in smaller communities and death / suffering is even more widespread.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I mean realistically it's all going to hell sooner or later. You'll start with millions of climate refugees, closed borders, violence. Then climate wars (a wall with machine guns isn't going to stop people who have no other way to survive). And if a country with nukes (like India) finds itself uninhabitable then things are really going south. Next up you have a possible nuclear war and the end of humanity as we know it.

    Sure, a small amount of humans might survive, but civilization will go down in chaos. Even areas that are inhabitable and have plenty of water will break down, because the local infrastructure can't support hundreds of thousands of refugees forcing their way in.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    You’ll start with millions of climate refugees

    Millions? If only.

    I've seen estimates which say at least a billion by 2050:

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/06/climate-refugees-the-world-s-forgotten-victims/)

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh, I was more thinking per area. Not all refugees will go to the same place.

    It will start with millions and that might already be enough to cause collapse. When it's over a billion it's already over.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago*

    The whole Syria thing already caused us lots of issues in Europe. Arguably the civil war was caused in part by climate change exacerbating a drought. The surge in refugees helped the far right and populists across Europe and was a factor in brexit.

    I can only imagine what'll happen if it gets worse. Children of Men is likely to be eerily prophetic.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago*

    I've seen estimates that say a billion dead by 2100 is the most optimistic possible outcome. Even the notoriously cautious IPCC is making the most unimaginably dire predictions:

    In its report focusing on the impacts of global warming on people and the planet, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says that every inhabited continent is already experiencing multiple climate impacts, from droughts and flooding to biodiversity loss and falling food production. Between 3.3 to 3.6 billion people live in areas “highly vulnerable to climate change,” the authors warn, with “additional severe risks” should the Earth warm beyond 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit). (From an article in Forbes magazine.)

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