The sombre mien—that’s what stayed with me. On Saturday, Mark Carney looked less like a prime minister briefing media on trade negotiations than a wartime leader telling his country a feared turn had finally arrived and preparing them for a long ordeal. The intense, all-out effort to stop crushing new tariffs had failed, with Carney grimly explaining that the United States insists on “short-term transactions” rather than “long-term partnerships” and that its commitments could no longer be assumed to hold.

American demands reportedly went well beyond tariffs, market access, and sectoral protections. They targeted Canada’s freedom to set domestic cultural policy, interpret agreements it had already signed, and conduct trade relations with third countries. The loss of our sovereignty was too high a price for preserving economic integration. What prime minister would accept Canada becoming a vassal state on his watch? With the collapse of talks, and Carney describing the country as being “attacked,” it’s hard not to feel like we have crossed into a different moment—that we are living in a slightly darker reality.

Throughout the weekend, The Walrus spoke to economists, policy experts, and political observers about what exactly has changed and what this new period might demand of Canada.

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[–] 25 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Carney's ace in the hole - the mid-terms in three months. It is very likely that if a trade deal is not signed soon, the Republicans will lose both the House and the Senate, and not just by a little. The myth that the tariffs will be 'crushing' to Canada just does not hold water. Tariffs on only $50 billion (both ways) out of total trade of $900 billion is certainly not going to break Canada, bit losing the Senate and House will devastate the Republicans.

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  • [–] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    One can almost count on the Democrats to foul up their chances to win both houses.

    However, as Trump gets dumber, it might affect them in 2028.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Read the agenda. Vance will never let Trump last until 2928. .Vance wants to be POTUS without the need for an election, and he gets his wish it Trump is deposed at the mid-terms. Vance is just giving Trump enough rope to hang himself.

    The way Vance is maneuvering, not even the Democrats could blow the chances of the House and Senate going Democrat. This is all about Republican voters making the shift, and they are doing it regardless of what the Democrats do or say. The Republicans want Trump gone more than the Democrats do.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago* (1 child)

    As I posted elsewhere:

    https://lemmy.ca/comment/25032971

    The last time a GOP VP became President was in 1988—38 years ago, and Papa Bush served 2 terms with a popular US president who in his 2nd election won 49 states, 68.8% of the popular vote, and 213 more Electoral College votes than Trump did in his 2nd.

    *I should have not posted 68.8% but rather 58.8%.

    Presumably both Houses will go Democrat or they won't.

    If they do, Vance needs to do little because if Trump's (successfully) impeached, Vance will get his job: though I suppose Vance could also get impeached too, and the (new) House Speaker becomes acting President.

    As I think the Democrats won't win both Houses, Trump will putter along. If Vance wants to strike, he will have to do in Trump's 2nd half of the term to be able to be elected twice.

    This is possible, but similar happened when Gerald Ford took office from Nixon in 1974, but he lost to Carter 2 years later—and like Reagan in 1984, Nixon in 1972 won bigger than Trump did in 2024.

    % Electroral College votes # of states
    Nixon 1972 60.7% 520 49
    Reagan 1984 58.8% 525 49
    Trump 2024 49.8%[2] 312 31 + ME-02

    and when Nixon won in November 1972, he wasn't even 60 years old (unlike Kamala Harris who was 60 in November 2024).

    Btw, how will this coup happen?

    Will Vance assassinate Trump?

    Invoke the wp:Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution?

    The wp:Second cabinet of Donald Trump seems to have 16 members. How many of them would rather have Trump finish to 2028 than Vance? Either way, they won't be secretaries for long, but at least they might get more of their agendas more completed by 2028 with Trump than with Vance—Trump being the devil they know (or at least know more).

    and, boy, what a ruckus will that turn into.

    Could we have MAGAts field 3rd party candidates in 2028? Maybe some former Cabinet Secretary who stayed loyal to Trump? Maybe a Hegseth, Rubio, RFK Jr, even Bessent?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    Through a 'forced resignation' - making Trump an offer he can not refuse. Resign or be impeached. Vance only needs a few Republicans to turn, as it is a certainty that every Democrat would vote for his impeachment. All Vance needs to do is to convince the Democrats that it was their idea. The 'treason' angle is still very much able to return front-and-center. I am sure Vance has had the time to dig up the really incriminating stuff. Really juicy stuff like a scandal of Trump Corp. making huge inside gains based on intel Kushner fed Trump Corp operatives - take down both Trump AND Kushner. Doesn't have to be the truth - doesn't even have to be believable. With an approval rating in the 30's, no one will want to go down with a sinking ship. Vance has to act before Rubio gets a toe-hold. But Vance needs at least a year as POTUS in order for him to get entrenched. As a narcissist, Vance out-Trumps Trump.

    Incidentally, it is obvious that whatever occurred in the past will have absolutely no predictive vale today. America is in a free-for-all spiral down with nothing but knee-jerk reactions, and a clear-headed Vance to steer his way through the morass.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    FYI, petroleum products alone are $120 billion, out of $400 billion total exports to them. That's ~1/5 of all their oil. Although, to be fair, we get a lot of our refined fuel back from them.

    Potash would be really hard for them to replace, and they were still buying our aluminum regardless of the 25% tax. Lots of their the other top imports are commodities, since that's what we produce, and most commodities can't just be made anywhere.

    Obviously, they have the advantage of size. But if you look past that, at all, they suddenly don't look so unstoppable.

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  • So a 5% export tax on oil would return $12 billion? That pays for a LOT of the new tariffs Trump wants to levy/ The exporters drop their price by 50%, and the government pays the difference from the oil export tax. China actually did something like this when Trump tried to tariff them out of the market. Some of it was currency manipulation as well, but unfortunately the Canadian dollar is holding up, everything considered.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    You vastly overestimate Americans. Very high chance nothing will change in the mid terms.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Yah, the more I hear about how how the GOP are going to get slaughtered, the less I believe it. Americans will just decide it's in the bag and not vote, if the past is any indication. Fucking idiots.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago*

    It's possible.

    They pretty predictably punish whichever party has the White House for a bad economy, though. Or national embarrassment. Or, like, the weather on voting day. It's pretty uniformly all blamed on whoever the president is, down there.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I would never count on the Americans to vote intelligently.

    Practically speaking, the Republicans have controlled the senate for 14 years. Realistically the mid terms are not going to change anything. The average American is more ignorant, self centred, and isolated than ever.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I am sad to agree with you on this.

    Today I looked to see if the Co-op had a Canadian brand of tooth paste, they did not that was going to be enough for me to write a letter, but than I noticed in the flyer they had a maple leaf by coke and pepsi. Angry I looked at a few other things and say they had maple leaves beside a lot of stuff that just was not Canadian. On the back of their products they advertise www.storebrands.coop which does not go anywhere, after confirming it was not storebrands.com I did a whois on it and found out that yes the coop owns it but its name is hosted by cloudflare. I will admit I hold a bias against cloudflare and suggested they fix the page and move to CIRA for their DNS. Since Carney has said we are at war with the US, sure it is a trade war not a pu pu boom war it is war none the less and I plan on fighting it.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I’m thinking of putting up lawn signs telling people to cancel Amazon, throw out Alexa, and cut Disney and Netflix.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    I wish I had the money to get rid of my apple home pods and replace them with some open source speaker/microphone. I have however got rid of the Apple Home and replaced it with Home Assistant, wish I got into it much sooner and replaced all of my apple things sooner.

    I have a Mac Mini that has spent years sitting on my desk because I could not update it, I downloaded all my iTunes music purchases and than removed OS X and installed Debian.

    I use pi-hole to block a lot of trackers and ads, and I self host a lot of things. In the next year or two I will replace my iPhone with a Motorola and either use e/OS or Graphen OS.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'm curious, any reason for Motorola specifically? I would say they're still a U.S. company, and in many ways no better than Apple.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'd guess because Motorola has partnered with Graphene OS to release a phone with Graphene as the os.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    They'd better vote like their country depends on it this time. And the next. And the next. Because while money can't buy everything, it seems to be able to buy selective amnesia in American news networks and voters' minds.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I read an article a day or two ago that claims the Republicans are in trouble because so many Americans hate data centers. That and the trade war could spell trouble for a lot on the right.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    You can read opinions and polls all day, the reality is only the right wing comes out to vote.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I apologize for linking to a U.S. website, but here's a polling average for the midterm for those curious: https://www.natesilver.net/p/generic-ballot-average-2026-nate-silver-bulletin-congress-polls

    It looks like Trump's party is indeed behind right now at least.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Polls are pointless. People respond to polls who never vote.

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    Nate Silver uses an aggregate of dozens of polls and weights each one based on numerous factors including historical accuracy and bias.

    His model correctly projected Trump win in 2015 even when most polls said otherwise.

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