▲ 19 ▼ Are there any descent open source dating apps/communities? (fedinsfw.app) submitted 3 hours ago by bifoxyboy@fedinsfw.app to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 13 comments fedilink hide all child comments Dating apps are designed to keep you on them and are malicious by nature. What are the best ways to meet people these days?
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago) (1 child) why does it matter if its open source? open source projects could still be designed to be algorithms keeping you on the site ask question get downvoted. never change, lemmy. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children) Open source means you can see how maliciously and constantly you are fucked over by the app. Honestly, I think most dating apps--owned by a single company--are probably breaking laws, and if they're not, we need to write some more. At least we can do an anti-trust case against Match: Match Group, Inc.[...] owns and operates the largest global portfolio of popular online dating services including Tinder Match dot com Meetic OkCupid Hinge Plenty of Fish Azar, and other dating global brands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_Group permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 3 hours ago Open source means you can see how maliciously and constantly you are fucked over by the app. The conversation during the first date largely consisted of the couple swapping notes on their respective code audits of the dating system. It was when Jeremy heard Sandra raise the issue that some of the site's metrics for individual users used Sturge's rule to bin users, but that off-site demographic data suggested that the distribution of several of these metrics were not symmetric, at that moment, that he knew that the two were meant to be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago (1 child) but it being open source doesnt stop that. hence my question to OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) I think it does stop that because people would know how they're being manipulated and not participate. I think the the fairer argument is that being open source doesn't get people to use it, and, since people want to be where everyone else is, they'll go to apps with marketing budgets and no requirement to learn how to federate your instance or whatever the fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children) we are talking cross purposes. and i really dont care that much to explain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children) Open source means you can see how maliciously and constantly you are fucked over by the app. Honestly, I think most dating apps--owned by a single company--are probably breaking laws, and if they're not, we need to write some more. At least we can do an anti-trust case against Match: Match Group, Inc.[...] owns and operates the largest global portfolio of popular online dating services including Tinder Match dot com Meetic OkCupid Hinge Plenty of Fish Azar, and other dating global brands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_Group permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 3 hours ago Open source means you can see how maliciously and constantly you are fucked over by the app. The conversation during the first date largely consisted of the couple swapping notes on their respective code audits of the dating system. It was when Jeremy heard Sandra raise the issue that some of the site's metrics for individual users used Sturge's rule to bin users, but that off-site demographic data suggested that the distribution of several of these metrics were not symmetric, at that moment, that he knew that the two were meant to be. permalink fedilink source parent [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago (1 child) but it being open source doesnt stop that. hence my question to OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) I think it does stop that because people would know how they're being manipulated and not participate. I think the the fairer argument is that being open source doesn't get people to use it, and, since people want to be where everyone else is, they'll go to apps with marketing budgets and no requirement to learn how to federate your instance or whatever the fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children) we are talking cross purposes. and i really dont care that much to explain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 3 hours ago Open source means you can see how maliciously and constantly you are fucked over by the app. The conversation during the first date largely consisted of the couple swapping notes on their respective code audits of the dating system. It was when Jeremy heard Sandra raise the issue that some of the site's metrics for individual users used Sturge's rule to bin users, but that off-site demographic data suggested that the distribution of several of these metrics were not symmetric, at that moment, that he knew that the two were meant to be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago (1 child) but it being open source doesnt stop that. hence my question to OP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) I think it does stop that because people would know how they're being manipulated and not participate. I think the the fairer argument is that being open source doesn't get people to use it, and, since people want to be where everyone else is, they'll go to apps with marketing budgets and no requirement to learn how to federate your instance or whatever the fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children) we are talking cross purposes. and i really dont care that much to explain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) I think it does stop that because people would know how they're being manipulated and not participate. I think the the fairer argument is that being open source doesn't get people to use it, and, since people want to be where everyone else is, they'll go to apps with marketing budgets and no requirement to learn how to federate your instance or whatever the fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children) we are talking cross purposes. and i really dont care that much to explain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children) we are talking cross purposes. and i really dont care that much to explain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 point 32 minutes ago You asked why open source would matter. In this case it would matter because it is visible if the app is abusing an algorithm to keep you on the app rather than actually try to find a match you might like. So for one, it's much less likely to be happening because anybody with the know-how can see it and tell people. If an app got a bit larger of a userbase and then tried to change it to be shitty, you'll know and can stop using it. It's also less likely because typically these open source apps the person is developing for free (maybe with donations to help support it) so there isn't that incentive to do anything scummy. Anyone else can fork the application and host it themselves, so if the original developer starts making changes you disagree with you and a few other contributors could come together and take them out (like CoMaps for an example). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 point 34 minutes ago (1 child) Everyone understands your question. You just miss the point of open source projects. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago ok then. permalink fedilink source parent