▲ 679 ▼ We ignored the signs. (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 hours ago by Lisk91@sh.itjust.works to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (3 children) Does anyone still use fax machines? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children) I'm from Germany. German bureaucrats love fax machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago That's usually because regulations were made that you have to use a fax, so that's what they still do. I heard that this was because you can correlate phone records to the date and time on the fax to prove who sent it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Yeah. I guess that checks out. I bet you could make lots of money introducing them to the copy machines that can also automatically scan and email documents… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children) Ironically that won't help. Email is unencrypted and you're not allowed to send "sensible data" over it as it would be violating the GDPR. On the other side you're technically not allowed to use a fax machine for that either as the recipient might forward faxes to an email inbox and that'd be unencrypted. But nobody talks about fax being unencrypted either... Also the argument for fax is that POTS is a direct connection between two fax machines while the internet wouldn't be and were easier to eavesdrop on. Since everything is SIP nowadays,... But I don't know what they're thinking besides "we've done that for all those years why wouldn't it work now?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago It’s important to note that fax machines aren’t point-to-point either. Your data is still passing through someone else’s switches (probably fewer hops, mind.) and then there’s the physical security on the other end to wonder about. The last fax I saw was in high school and it was left out for any one to grab documents from. (Well. Inside the school library right near the librarians desk.)(she had a somewhat unearned reputation for being terrifying, so, you’re mileage might carry there.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 point 3 hours ago My email is encrypted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 5 points 4 hours ago I see them in medical environments sometimes. Occasionally simpler than finding some compatible network method that complies with all the privacy requirements to just send screaming screeches direct point to point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 points 3 hours ago State government agencies often still use faxes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children) I'm from Germany. German bureaucrats love fax machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago That's usually because regulations were made that you have to use a fax, so that's what they still do. I heard that this was because you can correlate phone records to the date and time on the fax to prove who sent it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Yeah. I guess that checks out. I bet you could make lots of money introducing them to the copy machines that can also automatically scan and email documents… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children) Ironically that won't help. Email is unencrypted and you're not allowed to send "sensible data" over it as it would be violating the GDPR. On the other side you're technically not allowed to use a fax machine for that either as the recipient might forward faxes to an email inbox and that'd be unencrypted. But nobody talks about fax being unencrypted either... Also the argument for fax is that POTS is a direct connection between two fax machines while the internet wouldn't be and were easier to eavesdrop on. Since everything is SIP nowadays,... But I don't know what they're thinking besides "we've done that for all those years why wouldn't it work now?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago It’s important to note that fax machines aren’t point-to-point either. Your data is still passing through someone else’s switches (probably fewer hops, mind.) and then there’s the physical security on the other end to wonder about. The last fax I saw was in high school and it was left out for any one to grab documents from. (Well. Inside the school library right near the librarians desk.)(she had a somewhat unearned reputation for being terrifying, so, you’re mileage might carry there.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 point 3 hours ago My email is encrypted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago That's usually because regulations were made that you have to use a fax, so that's what they still do. I heard that this was because you can correlate phone records to the date and time on the fax to prove who sent it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Yeah. I guess that checks out. I bet you could make lots of money introducing them to the copy machines that can also automatically scan and email documents… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children) Ironically that won't help. Email is unencrypted and you're not allowed to send "sensible data" over it as it would be violating the GDPR. On the other side you're technically not allowed to use a fax machine for that either as the recipient might forward faxes to an email inbox and that'd be unencrypted. But nobody talks about fax being unencrypted either... Also the argument for fax is that POTS is a direct connection between two fax machines while the internet wouldn't be and were easier to eavesdrop on. Since everything is SIP nowadays,... But I don't know what they're thinking besides "we've done that for all those years why wouldn't it work now?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago It’s important to note that fax machines aren’t point-to-point either. Your data is still passing through someone else’s switches (probably fewer hops, mind.) and then there’s the physical security on the other end to wonder about. The last fax I saw was in high school and it was left out for any one to grab documents from. (Well. Inside the school library right near the librarians desk.)(she had a somewhat unearned reputation for being terrifying, so, you’re mileage might carry there.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 point 3 hours ago My email is encrypted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children) Ironically that won't help. Email is unencrypted and you're not allowed to send "sensible data" over it as it would be violating the GDPR. On the other side you're technically not allowed to use a fax machine for that either as the recipient might forward faxes to an email inbox and that'd be unencrypted. But nobody talks about fax being unencrypted either... Also the argument for fax is that POTS is a direct connection between two fax machines while the internet wouldn't be and were easier to eavesdrop on. Since everything is SIP nowadays,... But I don't know what they're thinking besides "we've done that for all those years why wouldn't it work now?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago It’s important to note that fax machines aren’t point-to-point either. Your data is still passing through someone else’s switches (probably fewer hops, mind.) and then there’s the physical security on the other end to wonder about. The last fax I saw was in high school and it was left out for any one to grab documents from. (Well. Inside the school library right near the librarians desk.)(she had a somewhat unearned reputation for being terrifying, so, you’re mileage might carry there.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 point 3 hours ago My email is encrypted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago It’s important to note that fax machines aren’t point-to-point either. Your data is still passing through someone else’s switches (probably fewer hops, mind.) and then there’s the physical security on the other end to wonder about. The last fax I saw was in high school and it was left out for any one to grab documents from. (Well. Inside the school library right near the librarians desk.)(she had a somewhat unearned reputation for being terrifying, so, you’re mileage might carry there.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 5 points 4 hours ago I see them in medical environments sometimes. Occasionally simpler than finding some compatible network method that complies with all the privacy requirements to just send screaming screeches direct point to point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 points 3 hours ago State government agencies often still use faxes. permalink fedilink source parent
