Well if that isn't just about the most evil thing you could openly admit to doing.
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[–] 255 points 1 month ago (15 children)

If they want to dismantle a union, start with police unions. But I'm sure that's the one and only union they would support. Tells you something about these assholes. And police.

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  • [–] 113 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Counterpoint: Unions who break up strikes aren’t unions

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    except police unions arent true unions, just a mafia/gang that can strongarm a city to give it what it wants for protection.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    that's what an ideal union is

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Exceeeeppppptttt when the union in question is full of members who's job it is to put people in cages like animals, most of the time without need. Also when a side effect of the job of the members is murder of innocent civilians and protesters.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    that isn't relevant to the quality of the union, it juat makes the entire job evil

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    I have to disagree with you here, you can't group police unions described in my last comment to, say, coal miner unions which got the miners and their families paid in US dollars, got them out of broken down and expensive company housing, raised their wages to living levels, and generally raised generations of entire regions out of poverty before the mines were automated or shut down.

    ETA: Also, other types of unions don't terrorize civilians when they don't vet their way, other types of unions hurt the BOSSES and capitalists and are generally integrated into the community, not trying to lord over it.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    All public sector unions should be disbanded.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I work in the public sector working in health and fitness. Should my union be dismantled?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yes if you are a public sector employee. There's not an owner or management for you to negotiate against

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    There definitely is management. What about people like NHS staff? Nurses, porters, doctors working in public health, are they also disqualified from union activity?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yes. All public sector unions. There isn't a true counter party in the public sector, the union is bargaining against the people. This leads to a perverse incentive where "management" essentially agrees to anything as there's no benefit to disagree.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    If what your saying about no true counter party was to be true, we would see well paid NHS staff. Where as in the UK its been recorded that nurses are using food banks. A similar story for those working in finance, leaving university with an economics degree, people can enter the private sector which pays very well or go public like my ex partner had which pays much less.

    We also see unions in public education, again in the UK, teachers and teaching assistance haven't seen real wage increases since before the 2008 recession.

    In short I disagree, I believe we need strong fighting unions in our public sector more than ever.

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