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Why Are Canadians Turning Against Gender Diversity? (thetyee.ca)
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[–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

Jesus fucking Christ with you people. A great example of a liberal who thinks that people can only see what you show them.

Material security is a fucking privilege. The fact that people are miserable doesn't mean they aren't privileged. And why do you think they are privileges? Hm? Where did they get the idea that they are? Is here, perhaps, good reason to think that in the white settler state? Hmmm, almost like the entire fucking country was designed to the benefit of people like them, specifically.

The amount of Canadians in this thread who pretend to not get what this place is is getting on my nerves. They know they're miserable, nobody is having fun, they want to be secure and they know they can get that by being bigoted because that's how they fucking got what they have.

It's obvious that many of you warp reality to parse some sense of empathy or understanding for these people, and it shows that you clearly don't care about the people who are victimized. Everyone has bigots in their family, you have to learn to understand they're sad people and also that nobody is going to force them to be otherwise, they're still a threat. This piece of shit country was about to elect an explicitly trans-genocidal PM before Trump stole the election for Carney, maybe you shouldn't say anything about this if these people weren't about to fucking kill you. No, they aren't being tricked, they're adults, grow the fuck up.

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  • [–] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 child)

    Neither a Canadian, nor a liberal, nor disagreeing with your general point that Canada is a white steller colonial project in which whites are given the role of Specialest Boys (and my country, the Netherlands, is a white colonial home base that is still enriching itself with stolen wealth).

    My point is that even if they get the privileges of class traitorship, they're still worse off than in an egalitarian society. They have less material stability too than they would have.

    Do you disagree? Do you think most white people are better off in the current system than in what you hope to build?

    I like calling the organized effort to prevent white people from supporting a better world a trick because if not for white people there is no narrative-backed demographic in-group that can save the status quo.

    Like, suppose there was a secret ballot where people could say they would fight in support of an anarchocommunist revolution if X% of the population is also ready to fight in support of it, and where if at least Y% of the population answers Y% or less then all of them get notified. Then white people could just put X=80% and end up with a bloodless revolution (because cops aren't going to fight 80% of the population) that makes their lives instantly better for free.

    Thus the rich need to convince white people that their X should be higher and that Y never surpasses their X. And since setting X at a point where they have nothing to lose while Y is known would be enough to have a successful revolution, it takes a trick to keep white people in support of the status quo.

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 child)

    Unreal the amount of liberals who try to claim ownership over values they clearly don't subscribe to; wonder where they'd learn to do that so comfortably.

    Bud, that world does not exist, the one with a Canada in it does. I am not tricking anyone when I tell them that doing exactly what is currently done is going to do with it currently does. You're working backward from a fantasy because you think that's what "socialism" is. No, socialism is about materialism; analyzing the social relations oriented around material needs to generate cricisism and prescribed ideological solutions. These people, including yourself, live in a system where white supremacy is already the norm and is the system of power by which they experience the high standard of living they are afforded by default by being compliant with that hierarchy, willfully or otherwise.

    You seriously have no idea what the hell you're talking about, and your whatever, hypotheticals are irrelevant since they do not actually contend with the reality of what this system is, again (and honestly, shows that you have never learned about any revolutions outside of YouTube and History Channel). Do you actually think you've gotten to the party this late and know better than people who have fought this system for generations? Yeah bud, hey, why wouldn't there be a fucking ballot like that in this system? Why is every major party neoliberal? Almost like there's reasons why the current state of affairs have developed the way they have. And of course you've arrived at the conclusion that you do by not even reading about it, otherwise you would have used these terms that have been normal in polisci and poliphilo fields for fucking sixty years.

    You literally had to invent a convoluted scenario to describe what you think is a "trick" to describe appropriation, which is how libs ** like you** use language to rearticulate preexisting settler-colonial values through the terms of challenging political movements. No, you and every other dumbass colonizer like you is not "tricked" into supporting a system that already produces your material security through these social relations. People act in accordance with their security, bigots recognize correctly that if this system continues to their benefit, it will do so through white supremacy, heteronormativity, and settler-colonialism, as it always has and why they are benefited by it today. People like you do that, but your discomfort with the obvious immorality of such behaviour encourages you to convolute some reasoning where whatever you were taught to believe by the state is only misguided, misused, and not fundamentally incompatible with an empathetic way of life. Whether or not that this system is sustainable is irrelevant to the fact that people benefit from it now and therefore are inclined to maintain their level of material security. The only difference between you and a bigot is that they are far more comfortable with the violence of this system than you are, the values are fundamentally the same; neither of you are free of responsibility or liability for your beliefs. If you do not like the sound of that, maybe take a minute to think about this.

    Go back to talking to your chud uncs at the bbq, that is clearly where you worked through these ideas.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child)

    So, according to you, it is in my best interest as a privileged white person to support the oppression of non-white people and support the status quo?

    Can't imagine why generations of people like you never achieved anything. You're basically doing fascist propaganda for them.

    Which, considering the amount of trickery going on, is quite interesting. Why wouldn't the state let Marxists whose interpretations empower the status quo just barely dodge the axe while cutting down those whose ideas have teeth? Realistically, any current of Marxism that "has fought for generations" will have had generations of evolutionary pressure applied to it, either domesticating it (labour) or rendering it a relatively harmless pest (far-left radicals).

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