▲ 294 ▼ Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels (arstechnica.com) submitted 1 day ago by zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml 82 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BigTurkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (2 children) Gonna buy one, gotta support the cause. We need this phone to do well. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children) Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch. Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story. In June 2026, Motorola bricked its whole line of routers without any explanation, leaving their customers with broken hardware. The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors. 404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice. "Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 point 4 hours ago Or so we hope, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago Different company? Motorola was split into two independent public companies: Motorola Solutions (its legal successor) and Motorola Mobility (spun off), on January 4, 2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola permalink fedilink source parent [–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch. I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it. It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago (2 children) You're supporting diva devs selling out. We don't need GOS to do well. We need a fully open ecosystem for phone operating systems. GOS devs don't let anyone incorporate their code. They also refuse to provide basic functionality like inverted navbar buttons. Because they're diva devs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prex@aussie.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) ...don't let anyone else incorporate their code. Is it not open source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) It's open source, but the license agreement prohibits using it in other projects. You can do it for your own personal builds, but not any published builds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great permalink fedilink source parent [+] iopq@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children) Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch. Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story. In June 2026, Motorola bricked its whole line of routers without any explanation, leaving their customers with broken hardware. The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors. 404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice. "Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 point 4 hours ago Or so we hope, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago Different company? Motorola was split into two independent public companies: Motorola Solutions (its legal successor) and Motorola Mobility (spun off), on January 4, 2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola permalink fedilink source parent [–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch. I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it. It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 point 4 hours ago Or so we hope, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 point 4 hours ago Or so we hope, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plyth@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago Different company? Motorola was split into two independent public companies: Motorola Solutions (its legal successor) and Motorola Mobility (spun off), on January 4, 2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch. I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it. It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch. I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it. It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago (2 children) You're supporting diva devs selling out. We don't need GOS to do well. We need a fully open ecosystem for phone operating systems. GOS devs don't let anyone incorporate their code. They also refuse to provide basic functionality like inverted navbar buttons. Because they're diva devs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prex@aussie.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) ...don't let anyone else incorporate their code. Is it not open source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) It's open source, but the license agreement prohibits using it in other projects. You can do it for your own personal builds, but not any published builds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great permalink fedilink source parent [+] iopq@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prex@aussie.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 child) ...don't let anyone else incorporate their code. Is it not open source? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) It's open source, but the license agreement prohibits using it in other projects. You can do it for your own personal builds, but not any published builds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child) It's open source, but the license agreement prohibits using it in other projects. You can do it for your own personal builds, but not any published builds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 hours ago so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great permalink fedilink source parent